[sinkspur]

How does opening the floodgates to every illegal alien and his fourth cousin twice removed consitute "reform?"

I didn't say it was. But, it appears to me that either some form of guest worker program has to be in a final bill, or there will be no bill.

No bill means that the status quo will prevail.

Turning out the Republicans in 2006 guarantees that something even worse than guest workers might come along.

[ARealMothersSonForever]

http://uscis.gov/lpBin/lpext.dll/inserts/slb/slb-1/slb-20/slb-457?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm#slb-act101a15hii
We already have a "temporary guest worker" program. We have NAFTA designations. Anything new would undermine the current provisions. Mexico's government could bolster their economy and trade relations and join the 27 nations that participate in the Visa Waiver Program. those countries are:
Andorra
Iceland
Norway

Australia
Ireland
Portugal

Austria
Italy
San Marino

Belgium
Japan
Singapore

Brunei
Liechtenstein
Slovenia

Denmark
Luxembourg
Spain

Finland
Monaco
Sweden

France
the Netherlands
Switzerland

Germany
New Zealand
United Kingdom

[oceanview]

the status quo is preferable to simply layering a guest worker program on top of what we already have now.

that guest worker program will be devasating to the US middle class - it means that legitimate businesses will be able to hire from those pools - walmart, home depot - they are all salivating at the chance to lower their wage footprint even further.

let's keep the status quo.

[Old_Mil]

But, it appears to me that either some form of guest worker program has to be in a final bill, or there will be no bill.

Then let there be no bill.

[Junior_G]

Turning out the Republicans in 2006 guarantees that something even worse than guest workers might come along.

Yeah, if we don't continue to elect open-borders Republicans we might get illegal aliens flooding across our borders. Seriously, what do you think is going to come across the border that is worse than what we have now? Republicans will continue to drift to the left as long as we continue to reward them with our votes. If they can hold on to the conservative vote, they'll want to branch out and get some of that leftie, hate-America vote as well.