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FLAG: Taking political correctness too far
Winston salem ^ | March 27, 2006 | Clint Johnson

Posted on 03/28/2006 9:37:15 PM PST by stainlessbanner

What else should we ban from public view other than the Confederate battle flag? Should we ban the Stars and Stripes? After all, it flew from the fantail of slave-carrying ships owned in Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. Old Glory is the official flag not only of the United States, but also of the Ku Klux Klan. Look at photos of the largest Klan march in history, in Washington in 1925. The only flag you see the Klansmen carrying is the United States flag. Not a single one of them is carrying the Confederate battle flag.

Should we ban all of our current money? The $1 bill bears the image of George Washington, a slaveholder. The $5 bill features Abraham Lincoln, the only president to suggest that all black people be forced to leave the United States and go to live in colonies he created in Haiti and what is now Belize. We must ban the $10 bill. That has Alexander Hamilton on it, the man who believed the United States should be set up like a monarchy. We have to burn all of the $20 bills. They picture Andrew Jackson, a slave owner who also shipped nearly all the Indians out of the Southeast.

Should we tear down the Washington Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial and the Lincoln Memorial, all built to honor those racists, on our money?

Here's an eye-opener at the end of college basketball season. Should we ban the nickname of the University of North Carolina Tar Heels? After all, that nickname stems from the Civil War, when North Carolina troops were known for "sticking" in line when attacked by Yankees. For a while, politically correct historians claimed that the nickname dated to the Revolutionary War, but it doesn't. If it had, any number of companies would have adopted the nickname at the beginning of the Civil War as a symbol of their own presumed bravery. A search of early war records finds no use of Tar Heels, meaning the name originated during the war of 1861-1865.

Should we ban any display of the flag of Scotland, a white St. Andrews Cross over a blue field? It is the same design as the Confederate battle flag, which is a blue cross with white stripes on a red field. Should we ban tourists or immigrants from Scotland on the theory that they may be racists for having the St. Andrews cross on their flag?

Anything to do with the Confederacy is under ban threat now, according to the PC crowd, because all such reminders are "obnoxious," "offensive to minorities," "intimidating to minorities," etc.

Really? Since when did minorities get so soft that they would be intimidated by a red, white and blue flag? In the 1960s, black men, women and children bravely faced down more than a flag. They went up against white men armed with guns, fire hoses, dogs and police batons. Those black people changed the society in the South for the better and forever. Thanks to that dangerous work, blacks and whites now eat together, drink from the same water fountains, pal around together, date each other, go to church together, cheer each other at sporting events and have the same opportunities to compete for the same jobs.

But, our mostly white politically correct leaders tell us that black people are so intimidated when they see the Confederate battle flag, see a Confederate statue on a courthouse lawn, hear the song "Dixie," or even read the words "Confederate" and "Dixie" that they are running and hiding under their beds. According to the PC crowd, black people are trembling in fear and trepidation until a -usually white - PC leader can tell them the danger is past.

I am not kidding. The white president of Vanderbilt University tried to remove the word "Confederate" from a dorm because, he said, the mere sight of the word intimidated black students. In Sewanee, Tenn., the white president of the University of the South is trying to rename the university because he finds the word "South" offensive. In Florida, a white Yankee transplant is trying to change the name of Lee County because he hates Robert E. Lee, for whom the county was named. What the ignorant Yankee in Lee County doesn't know is that Fort Myers, the county seat of Lee County, is named after Col. Abraham C. Myers, the Confederate quartermaster who came very close to being the first Jewish general in any army based in the United States.

One last question: Is it not the very definition of racism for white liberals to pat black people on the head and tell them that everything will be OK once they, white liberals, remove all offensive symbols from the sight of the black community? The black people I know and have known have never been afraid of anything, much less a flag, statue, song or word.

• Clint Johnson has written eight books on the Civil War. He helped Coach Clarence "Big House" Gaines write his autobiography.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cbf; clint; clintjohnson; confederate; crossofsaintandrew; dixie; flag; heritage; johnson; minority; opinion; saintandrewscross; southern
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1 posted on 03/28/2006 9:37:17 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: righthand man; TexConfederate1861; chesley; rustbucket; JamesP81; LeoWindhorse; groanup; NerdDad; ..

ping!


2 posted on 03/28/2006 9:37:44 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: yall
Any questions?

Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upsidedown at Montebello High. (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)

3 posted on 03/28/2006 10:04:07 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

I think the people that put the flags up in that manner should move to Mexico and never return.


4 posted on 03/28/2006 10:06:32 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Shown their true colors. Literally. Now lets send em back.


5 posted on 03/28/2006 10:13:00 PM PST by AnnoyedOne
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To: stainlessbanner
Here's a question. Why do the lib's want to ban Dixie but allow felons to fly another county's flag here?

/rhetorical
6 posted on 03/28/2006 10:15:30 PM PST by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: stainlessbanner

While were at it, let's ban white sheets and crosses.


7 posted on 03/28/2006 10:20:37 PM PST by opinionator
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To: NY Attitude
I think the people that put the flags up in that manner should move to Mexico and never return.

They would prefer to move Mexico here.

They're succeeding.

8 posted on 03/28/2006 10:36:21 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: stainlessbanner

The Dominion of Canada was formed by an act of Confederation. So far, the word "Confederation" is not taboo here.


9 posted on 03/28/2006 10:37:34 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Denver Ditdat

Unfortunately you are correct. We need to get some leaders in government that understands what this is doing to this nation of ours. What once made America great is not becoming its downfall because of the lack of the government and law enforcement agencies.


10 posted on 03/28/2006 10:39:53 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: stainlessbanner
The argument made by the article's author is a reductio ad absurdum fallacy. Also, by drawing a qualitative comparison between the stars and bars and the stars and stripes, the argument also implicitly states an equivalence of legitimacy between the Confederate battle flag and the national flag of the United States. Another implied argument by the author is that the Confederacy wasn't racist, since one of its generals was Jewish. None of these arguments is true, by reason or by historical example. Further, insofar as I know, the Confederacy was never recognized as a legitimate government by any foreign power, although the pro-southern sympathies of many European heads of state were well-known (and actively cultivated by Confederate diplomats). The South desperately sought international legitimacy, but never attained it. The CSA was the governing body of an active rebellion, not a national government as the term is commonly recognized and understood: not in fact, not in name. Thus, the Confederate battle flag is nothing more than a cloth on a pole. While one might admire the conviction, dedication, and bravery exhibited by soldiers who fought under that flag during the Civil War, decency dictates that one must also defer to the sentiments and sensibilities of those folks for whom that flag is a symbol of naked, unadorned oppression, for good reason.

To you sons of the Confederacy: the cause of your grandfathers was wrong, and deserved the defeat it suffered. Stop talking nonsense about 'The War of Northern Aggression' and for heaven's sake, stop waving that flag around. Nobody likes a sore loser.
11 posted on 03/28/2006 10:52:23 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: stainlessbanner
I spent a lot of years of my life wearing a uniform and living all over the world to maintain the freedom of this country. That happens to be a flag I am proud of, that I have fought for, and bled for.
Now we have some criminals who think that they are just going to walk in and take over just because they want to.
We will wait and see what our congress does with he new laws. There are many millions of retired military personnel in this country that do not take kindly to johnny come lately punks disrespecting our nations symbol.
Let them make noise and get all full of themselves. This isn't over by a long shot.
Lock and Load
12 posted on 03/28/2006 11:01:22 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: AnnoyedOne

Maybe more than a few should buy Mexican flags and join together across the country for a national Mexican flag burn off.


13 posted on 03/28/2006 11:39:24 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Rembrandt_fan

A diplomat, your are not, but your $%&*#*%@ can raise the hackles of more than a few, including mine.


14 posted on 03/28/2006 11:43:01 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
You wrote, "A diplomat, your are not, but your $%&*#*%@ can raise the hackles of more than a few, including mine."

Wasn't aiming for diplomacy, but as a descendant of a Union veteran, do feel a genuine respect for Southern bravery exhibited during the Civil War. A former infantryman myself, I also served with many Southerners whose family tradition and history encompassed that conflict, and know how dearly that history is held. That said, the best place for a Confederate battle flag is adorning a memorial for the soldiers who fought under it, not on top the courthouse or on the statehouse lawn. The war is long over, the issues that started it settled. Most importantly, you must know what it means to black Americans who see a Confederate flag snapping in the breeze, how much it hurts them, how much it offends on the most fundamental level. Time to put that flag away, for that reason alone.
15 posted on 03/29/2006 12:28:49 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: stainlessbanner
We have to burn all of the $20 bills. They picture Andrew Jackson, a slave owner who also shipped nearly all the Indians out of the Southeast.

Also a man who threatened to hang John Calhoun if the latter continued to hint at secession. Andrew Jackson was a southerner AND a unionist.

16 posted on 03/29/2006 12:31:33 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: stainlessbanner

BTW: No Confederate flag, no Mexican flag, no Irish flag, no Carlist flag, etc. Stars and Stripes above all dammit!


17 posted on 03/29/2006 12:32:53 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

That's it, I'm getting a Confederate battle flag for my wall.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 12:38:47 AM PST by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: stainlessbanner
What else should we ban from public view other than the Confederate battle flag?

Well, since he mentioned the rebel flag, I'm sure some members of alternative lifestyle community would consider banning that 'icky' Jessica Simpson from ever again wearing her Daisy Dukes a good start.

19 posted on 03/29/2006 1:02:45 AM PST by TeddyCon
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You wrote, "That's it, I'm getting a Confederate battle flag for my wall."

Are you sure there'll be room for it up there, sandwiched between the vintage David Duke for Congress poster and your prized hubcap collection?


20 posted on 03/29/2006 1:21:13 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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