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'Galileo Was Wrong,' claims geocentrist writer
The Sun Herald ^ | Tue, Mar. 28, 2006 | DRU SEFTON

Posted on 03/28/2006 12:09:01 PM PST by orionblamblam

Bible proves Earth is center of universe, author argues The Earth is at the center of Robert Sungenis' universe. Literally.

Yours too, he says.

Sungenis is a geocentrist. He contends the sun orbits the Earth instead of vice versa. He says physics and the Bible show that the vastness of space revolves around us; that we're at the center of everything, on a planet that does not rotate.

He has just completed a 1,000-page tome, "Galileo Was Wrong," the first in a pair of books he hopes will persuade readers to "give Scripture its due place, and show that science is not all it's cracked up to be."

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For several years the Web site of his Catholic Apologetics International (www.catholicintl.com) offered a $1,000 reward to anyone who could disprove geocentrism and prove heliocentrism (a sun-centered solar system).

There were numerous attempts, Sungenis said, "some serious, some caustic," but no one did it to his satisfaction. "Most admitted it can't be proven." There's also no proof that the Earth rotates, he said. But what about Foucault's famous pendulum? Its plane of oscillation revolves every 24 hours, showing the rotation of the planet. If the Earth didn't rotate, it wouldn't oscillate.

Nope, Sungenis said: There just may be some other force propelling it, such as the pull of stars.

(Excerpt) Read more at sunherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bible; brainless; creationism; crevo; crevolist; design; galileo; id; idjunkscience; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; kookalert; tinfoilalert
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To: SlowBoat407
which are sensitive enough to detect the earth's rotation as a rate of change in linear motion.

What do you think Foucault's Pendulum is detecting? It's just a mechanical integrator of change in linear motion.

41 posted on 03/28/2006 12:30:32 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Calvin Locke

????


42 posted on 03/28/2006 12:31:07 PM PST by pravknight (Christos Regnat, Christos Imperat, Christus Vincit)
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To: edcoil
It does not rotate, it spins.

James Carville spins. The earth rotates. :^P

43 posted on 03/28/2006 12:31:24 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: orionblamblam

I don't know whether the Earth is at the center of the Universe or not. But i do know that the Earth is rotating. Try flying west or east and note the effect on daylight.


44 posted on 03/28/2006 12:32:14 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: Skooz

I'm partial to 'Highway Star' by Deep Purple.

45 posted on 03/28/2006 12:33:46 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mikey_1962

"How does he feel about Evolution?"

Heck, how does he feel about the Mars Rovers?

And the pictures of "sun/earth eclipse" taken from the voyagers as they sped out of the solar system?


46 posted on 03/28/2006 12:34:36 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Dinsdale

So either God is manipulating every Foucault Pendulum and accelerometer in the world individually, or there is one simple motion that explains the response of every one of these devices. I vote for the simpler answer. God has better things to do than mess with our heads.


47 posted on 03/28/2006 12:35:20 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: orionblamblam

This fellow would be right at home here amongst the anti-Es. He even uses the same language - demanding that scientists PROOOOOVE that the Earth rotates.


48 posted on 03/28/2006 12:36:02 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: orionblamblam

In a sense, the guy could be right. Movement through space-time is all relative, as Einstein pointed out. Okay, so say the earth stands still and the entire universe moves around it. Depending on your frame of reference, that could be a useful model. We often use it for astronomical charts. It's kind of like saying I didn't drive to the liquor store today, the whole universe moved and I stayed still. Egotistical, sure, but invalid, not from a scientific standpoint.


49 posted on 03/28/2006 12:36:14 PM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: orionblamblam
But what about Foucault's famous pendulum? Its plane of oscillation revolves every 24 hours

I haven't been able to oscillate in a 24 hour period since my last marriage.

50 posted on 03/28/2006 12:36:23 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: Elpasser
Try flying west or east and note the effect on daylight.

Sorry, but that effect can also be achieved by the Sun orbiting the earth.

51 posted on 03/28/2006 12:36:34 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Dinsdale; SlowBoat407

The above comment is of course how you discribe the pendulums motion using the earth as a reference. Using the sun as a reference no forces have to act on the pendulum as the earth rotates around it.


52 posted on 03/28/2006 12:37:40 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Saint Reagan

"It's kind of like saying I didn't drive to the liquor store today, the whole universe moved and I stayed still."

Used that one on a cop yet?


53 posted on 03/28/2006 12:38:13 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Flightdeck

I have no doubt some of them are freepers.


54 posted on 03/28/2006 12:38:38 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: orionblamblam
One of the characteristics of a valid scientific theory is that there are conditions acknowledged by the authors of the theory that can disprove it. Whenever the authors will not acknowledge such conditions, the theory is likely not valid. Geocentricism, and Anthropogenic Global Warming are in this category. Thus, they cease to be scientific theorems, and fall more closely into the category of religion. I choose to not argue religion.
55 posted on 03/28/2006 12:38:49 PM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: DoctorMichael

No.

I wore out "Made in Japan" years ago.

If you want to choose the tunes, I get to drive. Which means no Pleiades. Instead, we'll go by way of Cassiopeia A.


56 posted on 03/28/2006 12:39:30 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Saint Reagan

The model goes nuts when we have to deal with the retrograde motion of Mars, however, which, before Galileo, had been explained with a looping orbit. Elliptical orbits, too, had to be explained with much more complex motion on the part of the rest of the observable universe.

When G was first hauled before the church, in fact, he skated by saying that the heliocentric theory was simply a model he had constructed to make his calculations easier, as it could use simpler means to express the complex movements of the heavens.


57 posted on 03/28/2006 12:39:43 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: MeanWestTexan; longshadow; VadeRetro; balrog666; Senator Bedfellow; RadioAstronomer; js1138; ...
Geocentrism Ping List
Don't ask to be added to or dropped from this list. Just don't.

58 posted on 03/28/2006 12:40:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Mars=Mercury... I think.


59 posted on 03/28/2006 12:41:01 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Saint Reagan

> Movement through space-time is all relative, as Einstein pointed out.

Einstein also pointed out that the speed of light was an absolute. So that would seem to conflict just a tad with the notion of stars lightyears away revolving around the Earth every 24 hours. Try workign out the velocity as a multiple of C for a galaxy going in a complete circle with a radius of 225 million lightyears in 24 hours.

Heck, work it out as a function of Warp Speed.


60 posted on 03/28/2006 12:41:15 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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