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To: baltodog; Restorer; LS; vrwc0915; planekT; CodeToad; devolve; Squantos
"This is unjust. This land used to belong to us and now they're trying to kick us out..."

Screw you...come and take it back from me.

It was never theirs. Mexico declared independence from Spain in 1821, and Mexico City had almost zero control of the present Southwest. All of the trade and economic activity was coming from the USA, via ships to California, and the Santa Fe Trail to New Mexico. Mexico City couldn't even protect the Southwest from attacks and massacres by the Comanches. Mexico City never had effective control.

So in the most narrow sense, our Southwest "belonged" to Mexico only from 1821 to 1847, and they never extercised effective control, never.

So for the last 160 years the Southwest has been firmly American, compared to 25 years of in-name-only ownership by Mexico? Please, spare me.

Add to that, NONE Of the present day Mexicans protesting in our streets had any connection to this American territory. How it is that a Mayan from Yucatan can claim that he owns California is beyond me. That's a total crock of mierda. When the Southwest came under American control in 1848, there was no "ethnic cleansing." The Spanish residents (who NEVER considered themselves "Mexican," ever!) simply became Americans. Nobody was driven south, to come back from present Mexico 160 years later holding a claim to land.

60 posted on 03/28/2006 2:26:29 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604915/posts

Note to self , basic load and 3 day resupply....etc etc

Damn....criminals playing the race card and presstitutes swallow it like the paid media whores they are......damn.


61 posted on 03/28/2006 2:36:56 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Travis McGee

That is indeed the indisputable truth of history! I have some doubts that even native-born Americans, in any significant numbers, have enough gray matter to wrap around it if they should ever even be exposed to it. But it is true.


63 posted on 03/28/2006 2:41:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos

Travis, it's looking like the Senate is on their side, along with the President. I hope that there will be at least one Senator who would try to block any guest worker shamnesty, but I'm not holding my breath.

Squantos, see my tagline.


67 posted on 03/28/2006 2:52:12 PM PST by planekT (Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one. Mine don't make newspapers though.)
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To: Travis McGee
It was never theirs

It was never Spain's, either, unless you buy the authority of the Pope to divide the world. Spain's claim to North America went all the way to the pole, which was what Pope Alexander VI gave them under the Treaty of Tordesillas and later the Treaty of Zaragosa.

Oddly, I don't think the Anglican Protestant British settlers who founded the United States or their forebears in Anglican England gave a rat's butt about what the Spaniard King and his Pope thought they "owned". The claim was laughable even when it was made.

This website also has some interesting tidbits: Cal Republic History . Fascinating that Revere's grandson raised the U.S. flag for the first time in Sonoma.

68 posted on 03/28/2006 3:03:51 PM PST by Regulator (It ain't Mexico, folks, and never was)
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To: Travis McGee; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; doug from upland; Zacs Mom; ...


GOOD SAMARITAN


72 posted on 03/28/2006 4:34:48 PM PST by devolve ( upload to free imagehosts Photobucket & Imagecave)
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To: Travis McGee

I lived in northern New Mexico for several years about 20 years ago.

The native New Mexicans settled in the small mountain villages of this area at the time most definitely considered themselves Spanish, not Mexican. They had lived in the area for centuries and were generally of pure Spanish descent, unmixed with Indian blood, and quite proud of it. They looked down on the mestizos who had immigrated comparatively recently from Mexico, and always referred to them as "Mexicans" in contrast to themselves.

Of course, they also looked down on the Anglos, such as myself, the local Indians, all blacks, etc. :)

This may have changed to some extent since, especially in the cities.


86 posted on 03/29/2006 3:33:54 AM PST by Restorer
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