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White House chief of staff resigning (Andy Card Has Resigned)
MSNBC Breaking News ^ | March 28, 2006 | MSNBC

Posted on 03/28/2006 5:01:19 AM PST by Arkinsaw

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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
So your sweeping generalization, blanket-coverage attack on the entire administration's policies is limited only to the budget?

Why didn't you say so in the first place?

If you said it is a 'fact' that there has been too much spending, then I would agree with you, but you made a general statement that was most certainly NOT a fact.

(Nice try to turn it around on me, though, Tread.........albeit totally unsuccessful).

321 posted on 03/28/2006 8:16:09 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: jec41
what in OMB suggests we went hard left?

The factual data at the OMB.

322 posted on 03/28/2006 8:16:40 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: ElPatriota

I'm old enough that I no longer know everything.


323 posted on 03/28/2006 8:16:57 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Arkinsaw

Hallelujah.


324 posted on 03/28/2006 8:18:30 AM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: ohioWfan

Now now, you know the term "left" in the context I used meant fiscally. And fiscally, you and I agree the admin went left.


325 posted on 03/28/2006 8:19:08 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: jec41

Who is Josh Bolten?

Very descriptive article from Stanford Law's alumni magazine:
http://www.law.stanford.edu/publications/lawyer/issues/69/sl69-bolten.pdf


326 posted on 03/28/2006 8:19:28 AM PST by realr
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

You are right. If only President Bush had immediately fired Minetta he would have had a better chance of being re-elected in 2004.


327 posted on 03/28/2006 8:20:07 AM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
what in OMB suggests we went hard left?

The factual data at the OMB.

The OMB is all factual data. What particular data facts says we went hard left? How much of the budget is mandatory and how much can be affected by the President?

328 posted on 03/28/2006 8:21:23 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: OldFriend
Well, I'm more concerned about stopping terrorism then placating those with tender, politically correct sensibilities.

So sue me.

329 posted on 03/28/2006 8:23:35 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: realr
Who is Josh Bolten?

I am already familiar with Josh Bolton and his work at OMB. However that was a nice article you posted and it filled in some details.

330 posted on 03/28/2006 8:26:53 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41

"Josh Bolten" sounds too much like "Josh Bartlett".


331 posted on 03/28/2006 8:32:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
OK...........I went back and read that you said it in a fiscal context (the fiscal part came after the 'hard left' comment).

I'll give you this one, Tread :)

(But NOT the 'hard left' stuff. "Tax cuts" and "left" are NEVER in the same sentence).

332 posted on 03/28/2006 8:32:54 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: thoughtomator
My sentiments exactly.
333 posted on 03/28/2006 8:47:37 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: ohioWfan

Talk about ignorant. If you don't think the Meirs nomination was a bad choice along with the way Katrina was handled by the Fema head appointed by Bush, then you're the one who is unaware of the problem. Throw in immigration along with high spending, indicates there is a lot of improvement to be made. And pal I'm way to the right of you.


334 posted on 03/28/2006 8:55:49 AM PST by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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5:30AM to 10:00PM is one kind of day. I thank Andy Card for his service to this country and hoping he catches up on life.


335 posted on 03/28/2006 8:55:58 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: muawiyah

check the tagline


336 posted on 03/28/2006 8:57:17 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: saganite

Gotcha' ~ not often on the same threads but I recall.


337 posted on 03/28/2006 9:04:13 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: realr

Thanks for a post that gives some personal insight into the President's new Chief of Staff.

I have to say I was deeply gratified to find that the book hubby and I received as a Christmas gift from his sister is the same book Mr. Bolton has on the coffee table in his office. LOL.


338 posted on 03/28/2006 9:05:06 AM PST by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; jec41
Jec41, there are people posting here who do not believe we should ever spend public money for national defense ~ not even in time of war where we have been attacked.

I don't think they're real Freepers.

One of the more intelligent of the DUers could probably pull off a fair imitation for a short while, but eventually their desolute lifestyles catch up with them and they start hitting the keys wrong.

Check the last 100 posts on this guy to see what he's really up to.

339 posted on 03/28/2006 9:07:40 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: ohioWfan
"Tax cuts" and "left" are NEVER in the same sentence.

This is where many make a mistake.

All conservatives love tax cuts prima facie. However,

1] The tax cuts were skewed against those who suffer the most--those who pay the most taxes. I am not talking about the super rich, but the middle class taxpayers got screwed, and the number of those who don't pay any taxes was increased! But, you, I and all conservatives love tax cuts, in general so thank you GWB for helping us out (temporarily).

2] Here is the key--tax cuts are temporary, spending increases are permanent.

Should the RATs make gains and take the WH, the tax cuts will go way. The way the Republicans have moved left (fiscally), that could happen even if the RATs don't. In Vegas, they make odds on everything, and the bet is (if they have it) that the tax cuts will disappear.

On the other hand, take Education spending. Bush has nearly doubled education spending in just five years. If Education spending were increased at the rate of inflation, the DOE budget would have risen about 15% in five years. Ronald Reagan increased Education 26% in his first five years, but George Bush increased spending over 80% in his first five years--and Reagan had higher inflation!

Now, let's say the Republicans come to their senses and say we are going to roll back the 80% plus increase in DOE and take it back to Clinton's last budget plus the rate of inflation over the last five years. Imagine the civil war from the RATs that would happen if that were proposed.

The point--tax rates come and go. Spending, once it is raised, NEVER reverts back to reasonable levels. They create a "new baseline", regardless of how crazy the spending increase was.

The legacy Bush will leave will NOT be one of tax cuts, since those cuts will be eliminated. I do not doubt that tax rates will be raised to a level HIGHER than they were before the Bush cuts.

The legacy of Bush spending will never leave, just as LBJ never left. Bush created new programs that will never be eliminated. Take the free money for home down payments. Bush has given money to a new program to give free money for home down payments. Do you think a reasonable Congress will do away with that program? This will be an "entitlement" that will never disappear, and will probably see huge increases, once 15 million illegal aliens start grabbing their free money.

What about $15 billion to Africa? Will that be raised to $30 billion or eliminated? The UN will demand that since Bush started that level of funding for the Millenium program, the USA be forced to continue funding it at those levels PLUS.

Remember this point--tax rates are temporary, spending increases are permanent.

Thank you for your input.

340 posted on 03/28/2006 9:12:22 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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