Mark
John
Posted on 03/26/2006 11:04:23 AM PST by neverdem
ALEXANDRIA, Va. — In 2008, when voters begin to decide on presidential candidates, parsing through stump speeches and plain vanilla debates will make it difficult to judge who among the hopefuls will live up to their rhetoric on taxes and government spending.
For concerned taxpayers, history has proven to be the best measure of a candidate’s mettle.
Former Virginia Democratic Gov. Mark Warner is heralded as a fiscal conservative who brought his state out of a financial crisis. Voters took note when Warner proclaimed: “I will not raise taxes. My plan states it. I’ve said it through this campaign.”
His record says otherwise. He and his allies in the state legislature raised court fees, imposed $34 million in additional regulatory burdens, increased cigarette and alcohol taxes, and boosted sales taxes by $395 million.
But Warner also has a propensity to spend as well as tax. Overall, state spending in Virginia has increased 22 percent from Warner’s first biennial budget. Total two-year spending for 2004 to 2006 will approach $63 billion.
If Warner can balance the budget, but then push for record tax increases, as well as boost spending in his state, what would he do with the keys to the U.S. Treasury?
Sam Batkins, National Taxpayers Union
What's his record in the Senate look like? That might be the more interesting question.
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C'mon Sam. The only way taxes can come down is to reduce government. It's pay me now or pay me later plus interest.
He's not in the Senate. You're thinking of John Warner, a long-serving Republican senator. Mark Warner is a Democrat who served as VA governor.
Are there any other DemocRATS but "tax and spend"?
why you want Allen to lose his home state?
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i dont think it would be so intersting, I think Warner would win easily....why would you want the only formula that works for DEMS to be a candidate for Prez in 2008?
I cant think of a single state Bush lost that Allen would win, yet I can think of a bunch thatBush won that Allen would lose:
That would result in President Warner and a simular electorate map as 1992. Warner is more popular than Allen in "conservative" Virginia.
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with a DEM gov who had 66% approval rating, Warner would carry the state easily....NOVA is quickly turning into NJ south.....VA was one of the few states where Bush did worse in 2004 than in 2000.
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The GOP better wakeup and not nominate a GOP Senator from an "safe" Bush state if they are going up against a southern Governor. To do so would just be a repeat of Carter and Clinton's victories. The only Republican who could beat Warner would be some guy who can pick up swing states like Pennsyvania, Ohio, Colorado, Oregon, etc.
Warner vs. Allen, I would guess it would break down like this:
ALLEN (R-VA)
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
Nevada
North Carolina
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Wyoming
WARNER (D-VA)
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Hawaii
Illinois
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Montana
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin
MarkJohn
Only in the presidential election. In the gubernational contests, it's elected LIBERAL Democrats twice in a row now, since 2001.
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2005 GUBERNATORAL ELECTION
RED COUNTIES = KAINE
2004 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
RED COUNTIES = KERRY
2001 GUBERNATORAL ELECTION
RED COUNTIES = MARK WARNER
2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
RED COUNTIES = GORE
Bush won fairfax in 2000 and lost it in 2004.
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