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Iraqis killed by US troops ‘on rampage’
Times Online ^ | 03/26/06 | Hala Jaber and Tony Allen-Mills, New York

Posted on 03/26/2006 7:05:43 AM PST by FarmerW

Khalaf ran from his own house and hid in a nearby grove of trees. He saw the soldiers enter his brother’s home and then heard the sound of women and children screaming.

“Then there was a lot of machinegun fire,” he said last week. After that there was the most frightening sound of all — silence, followed by explosions as the soldiers left the house.

..troops were gone, Khalaf and his fellow villagers began a frantic search through the ruins of his brother’s home. Abu Sifa was about to join a lengthening list of Iraqi communities claiming to have suffered from American atrocities.

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According to Iraqi police, 11 bodies were pulled from the wreckage of the house, among them four women and five children aged between six months and five years. An official police report obtained by a US reporter for Knight Ridder newspapers said: “The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11 people.” __ .. US marine armoured vehicle struck a roadside bomb that killed a 20-year-old lance-corporal. According to a marine communiqué issued the next day, the blast also killed 15 Iraqi civilians and was followed by an attack on the US convoy in which eight insurgents were killed.

An investigation by Time established that the civilians had not been killed by the roadside bomb, but were shot in their homes after the marines rampaged through Haditha. Among the dead were seven women and three children.

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“Women and even the children were blindfolded and their hands bound. Some of their faces were totally disfigured. A lot of blood was on the floors and the walls.”

Khalaf said he had found the body of his mother Turkiya with her face unrecognisable. “She had been shot with a dumdum bullet,” he claimed.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; autrocity; iraq; marine; oif; pentagon; rampage
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To: FarmerW
Zombie Alert!!
41 posted on 03/26/2006 8:16:33 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: ShutUpandSing

wouldn't should be would've.


42 posted on 03/26/2006 8:18:15 AM PST by ShutUpandSing
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To: ShutUpandSing

No, but it would be easy to do. Then the pictures would be flashed around the world and blamed on the US soldiers.


43 posted on 03/26/2006 8:19:07 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: Patriot from Philly

When will the bloogers in Europe start exposing the bias in Europe's press as we have here?


44 posted on 03/26/2006 8:29:00 AM PST by ground_fog
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To: ShutUpandSing

Read the story linked to in post# 15. No one doubts that the US troops were involved. It's what they were involved in that's in question.


45 posted on 03/26/2006 8:30:00 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: FarmerW

The UK Timesonline has absolutely no credibility with me.

The official U.S account of what happened.....

'The case involves a U.S. raid conducted, according to the official U.S. account, in response to a tip that a member of al-Qaida in Iraq was at the house.

Neighbors, interviewed by a special correspondent for Knight Ridder, agreed that the al-Qaida member was at the house. They said he was visiting the home's owner, a relative. The neighbors said the homeowner was a schoolteacher.

According to police, military and eyewitness accounts, U.S. forces approached the house at around 2:30 a.m. and a firefight ensued. By all accounts, in addition to exchanging gunfire with someone inside the house, U.S. troops were supported by helicopter gunships, which fired on the house.

But the accounts differ on what took place after the firefight.

According to the U.S. account, the house collapsed because of the heavy fire. When U.S. forces searched the rubble they found one man, the al-Qaida suspect, alive. He was arrested. They also found a dead man they believed to be connected to al-Qaida, two dead women and a dead child.

http://www.canadiancontent.net/commtr/article_806.html


46 posted on 03/26/2006 9:08:24 AM PST by red state girl (never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never - Winston Churchill)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

OK.

Given US troops were in some way involved, we ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE DUMDUM BULLETS.

The only thing we use is either straight Ball ammo FMJ(Full metal jacket) or Tracer ( FMJ + incindiary).


47 posted on 03/26/2006 9:24:34 AM PST by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: ground_fog
It may be too late for the Europeans. I believe that there is a wide division between the European elites and the people, that's why the US Olympic team is never booed like the American announcers keep predicting.
However, many Europeans have made the deal--they take the perks and welfare and guarantees and the elites have the power.
48 posted on 03/26/2006 10:31:17 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: FarmerW
"An investigation by Time established that the civilians had not been killed by the roadside bomb, but were shot in their homes after the marines rampaged through Haditha. Among the dead were seven women and three children."

Interesting that it wasn't too dangerous for Time to investigate and condemn our Military in Iraq. Time Magazine once again proves its hypocrisy and its blatant biasness as usual.
49 posted on 03/26/2006 11:13:03 AM PST by Chgogal (The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT lies about the Military and cowers...)
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To: roaddog727
Sorta - we do
http://www.thegunzone.com/hague.html

While we do not use bullets manufactured at the DumDum arsenal, India - we DO (legally) use "open tipped" sniper rounds.

From the JAG opinion
"The purpose of the 7.62mm "open-tip" MatchKing bullet is to provide maximum accuracy at very long range. ... Bullet fragmentation is not a design characteristic, however, nor a purpose for use of the MatchKing by United States Army snipers. Wounds caused by MatchKing ammunition are similar to those caused by a fully jacketed military ball bullet, which is legal under the law of war, when compared at the same ranges and under the same conditions. (The Sierra #2200 BTHP) not only meets, but exceeds, the law of war obligations of the United States for use in combat."

This use is legal, in part, because we are fighting non-uniformed combatants....Link is for more information.

The squad-level grunt does not have access to this ammo, it is also the wrong caliber for the M4/M16 and I doubt that the 240G drivers are given match grade ammo to burn thru their weapons.


So, yeah, the story is BS as printed.
50 posted on 03/26/2006 12:05:30 PM PST by ASOC (Choose between the lesser of two evils, and in the end, you still have - evil.)
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To: roaddog727

If you try to use dumdum bullets in an M-4 I would expect leading would buildup in the gas system, even with the use of gas checks. The weapon will cease to function quickly.


51 posted on 03/26/2006 8:22:34 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: roaddog727

it's all about obtaining compensation from the military, big bucks are paid out for family members with hardly any questions asked. I do believe the MSM loves this nonsense to encourage,incite and rally the enemy to kill our boys so it can all be blamed on Dubya and his "illegal war"


52 posted on 03/27/2006 5:52:33 AM PST by dubyawhoiluv
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