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Iraqis killed by US troops ‘on rampage’
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| 03/26/06
| Hala Jaber and Tony Allen-Mills, New York
Posted on 03/26/2006 7:05:43 AM PST by FarmerW
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To: FarmerW
Zombie Alert!!
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posted on
03/26/2006 8:16:33 AM PST
by
BallyBill
(Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
To: ShutUpandSing
wouldn't should be would've.
To: ShutUpandSing
No, but it would be easy to do. Then the pictures would be flashed around the world and blamed on the US soldiers.
To: Patriot from Philly
When will the bloogers in Europe start exposing the bias in Europe's press as we have here?
To: ShutUpandSing
Read the story linked to in post# 15. No one doubts that the US troops were involved. It's what they were involved in that's in question.
To: FarmerW
The UK Timesonline has absolutely no credibility with me.
The official U.S account of what happened.....
'The case involves a U.S. raid conducted, according to the official U.S. account, in response to a tip that a member of al-Qaida in Iraq was at the house.
Neighbors, interviewed by a special correspondent for Knight Ridder, agreed that the al-Qaida member was at the house. They said he was visiting the home's owner, a relative. The neighbors said the homeowner was a schoolteacher.
According to police, military and eyewitness accounts, U.S. forces approached the house at around 2:30 a.m. and a firefight ensued. By all accounts, in addition to exchanging gunfire with someone inside the house, U.S. troops were supported by helicopter gunships, which fired on the house.
But the accounts differ on what took place after the firefight.
According to the U.S. account, the house collapsed because of the heavy fire. When U.S. forces searched the rubble they found one man, the al-Qaida suspect, alive. He was arrested. They also found a dead man they believed to be connected to al-Qaida, two dead women and a dead child.
http://www.canadiancontent.net/commtr/article_806.html
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posted on
03/26/2006 9:08:24 AM PST
by
red state girl
(never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never - Winston Churchill)
To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
OK.
Given US troops were in some way involved, we ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE DUMDUM BULLETS.
The only thing we use is either straight Ball ammo FMJ(Full metal jacket) or Tracer ( FMJ + incindiary).
47
posted on
03/26/2006 9:24:34 AM PST
by
roaddog727
(P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
To: ground_fog
It may be too late for the Europeans. I believe that there is a wide division between the European elites and the people, that's why the US Olympic team is never booed like the American announcers keep predicting.
However, many Europeans have made the deal--they take the perks and welfare and guarantees and the elites have the power.
To: FarmerW
"An investigation by Time established that the civilians had not been killed by the roadside bomb, but were shot in their homes after the marines rampaged through Haditha. Among the dead were seven women and three children."
Interesting that it wasn't too dangerous for Time to investigate and condemn our Military in Iraq. Time Magazine once again proves its hypocrisy and its blatant biasness as usual.
49
posted on
03/26/2006 11:13:03 AM PST
by
Chgogal
(The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT lies about the Military and cowers...)
To: roaddog727
Sorta - we do
http://www.thegunzone.com/hague.html
While we do not use bullets manufactured at the DumDum arsenal, India - we DO (legally) use "open tipped" sniper rounds.
From the JAG opinion
"The purpose of the 7.62mm "open-tip" MatchKing bullet is to provide maximum accuracy at very long range. ... Bullet fragmentation is not a design characteristic, however, nor a purpose for use of the MatchKing by United States Army snipers. Wounds caused by MatchKing ammunition are similar to those caused by a fully jacketed military ball bullet, which is legal under the law of war, when compared at the same ranges and under the same conditions. (The Sierra #2200 BTHP) not only meets, but exceeds, the law of war obligations of the United States for use in combat."
This use is legal, in part, because we are fighting non-uniformed combatants....Link is for more information.
The squad-level grunt does not have access to this ammo, it is also the wrong caliber for the M4/M16 and I doubt that the 240G drivers are given match grade ammo to burn thru their weapons.
So, yeah, the story is BS as printed.
50
posted on
03/26/2006 12:05:30 PM PST
by
ASOC
(Choose between the lesser of two evils, and in the end, you still have - evil.)
To: roaddog727
If you try to use dumdum bullets in an M-4 I would expect leading would buildup in the gas system, even with the use of gas checks. The weapon will cease to function quickly.
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posted on
03/26/2006 8:22:34 PM PST
by
USNBandit
(sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: roaddog727
it's all about obtaining compensation from the military, big bucks are paid out for family members with hardly any questions asked. I do believe the MSM loves this nonsense to encourage,incite and rally the enemy to kill our boys so it can all be blamed on Dubya and his "illegal war"
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