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Authorities Say Minister's Wife Confesses
Associated Press ^ | 3/24/06 | WOODY BAIRD

Posted on 03/24/2006 1:01:33 PM PST by outlaw1_2003

The wife of a minister found dead in the church parsonage has confessed to shooting him and fleeing to Alabama, where she was found the following night with their three young daughters, authorities said Friday.

Mary Winkler told investigators she shot her husband on Wednesday, Selmer Police investigator Roger Rickman said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: matthewwinkler; pastor; tennessee; winkler
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To: outlaw1_2003

"Church members also took to his wife, who they described as a quiet, unassuming woman who was a substitute teacher at the elementary school."

Yep, it's the quiet ones allright!


21 posted on 03/24/2006 1:22:09 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: Paulus Invictus

My guess is that it is not adultery...that it was probably sexual abuse of the children and the wife reacted to it.

And yes, this is the saddest case. What's more is that the sadistic media and hollywood screenwriters will have this up and running on the life network before the year is out...


22 posted on 03/24/2006 1:22:38 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: Red Badger

NFW!!!!


23 posted on 03/24/2006 1:24:29 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: outlaw1_2003

She'll plead the Mommy Defense (tm), turn on the faucets at trial, beat up on the memory of the deceased and be acquitted.


24 posted on 03/24/2006 1:27:43 PM PST by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: stm

NFW?.............Not From Wyoming?......


25 posted on 03/24/2006 1:29:36 PM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Remember Hillary's ludicrous formulation when the Monica Lewinsky scandal first broke? "He was ministering to a troubled young person." ;)

Hmmm. That fits in nicely with another current thread:

"Suspicious package found in White House."

26 posted on 03/24/2006 1:30:48 PM PST by Erasmus (Eat beef. Someone has to control the cow population!)
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To: nikos1121

Sexual abuse of natural children by their father is rather unusual. Generally it's a stepfather.


27 posted on 03/24/2006 1:30:57 PM PST by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: outlaw1_2003

All the cable shows must be sending out their investigators.


28 posted on 03/24/2006 1:31:02 PM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: Red Badger

No Freakin' Way!!!


29 posted on 03/24/2006 1:32:23 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: samcgwire

Post-Parson depression?


30 posted on 03/24/2006 1:35:10 PM PST by Farmerbob
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To: HiJinx

Same talk around our water cooler.


31 posted on 03/24/2006 1:41:10 PM PST by InsensitiveConservative
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To: js1138

"Sexual abuse of natural children by their father is rather unusual. Generally it's a stepfather."


What you say may be true, (see below) natural parents sexually do abuse their children true, but what would cause a wife to kill her husband? Finding out about an adulterous affair? I doubt it. Wife abuse? Unless it's continuous over time. I doubt it. Sexual or physical abuse of a child? Most definitely.

This is from:http://www.fathersforlife.org/fv/child_abuse_roles_of_sexes.htm

Rates of Child Abuse in the U.K.
Child sexual abuse takes place within 4% of families (National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children — NSPCC),
About 1% of children are abused by a parent (NSPCC),
About 3% of children are abused by other relatives, with brothers or stepbrothers by far the largest category (NSPCC),
About 13-14% of sexual abuse involves non-relatives - which is to say, people outside the family. (NSPCC),
Sexual abuse occurs mainly in families that have broken or reconstituted; marriage is actually the best protector for children. (NSPCC)
Children are 20 to 33 times safer when they live with their biological parents than when they live in any other type of household. (NSPCC)
Non-biological fathers were almost four times as likely as natural fathers to sexually abuse children in their care. (A 1989 study by the University of Iowa of 2,300 cases of sexual abuse)
Although mothers’ boyfriends contributed less than 2% of non-parental child care, they committed almost half of all the child abuse by non-parents. (Unidentified study)
The risk of children being killed by a stepparent was 50 to 100 times higher than at the hands of a biological parent. (American sociobiologists Martin Daly and Margo Wilson)
Preschool age children not living with both parents were 40 times more likely to be sexually abused than those who were. "The presence of a stepparent is the best epidemiological predictor of child abuse yet discovered." (American sociobiologists Martin Daly and Margo Wilson)
The natural two-parent family was in a significant minority in every category of child abuse. This was even more remarkable since the majority of children lived in such families. (in Britain in 1994 by Robert Whelan, of the Family Education Trust, drawing on research by the NSPCC and the Family Court Reporter, Whelan)
Children living with a lone mother were at more than three times the risk of abuse than children living with their two natural parents (Robert Whelan, 1994)
Children living with their natural mother and a father substitute were at more than eight times the risk. (Robert Whelan, 1994)
If both natural parents were cohabiting, the risk to the child was as much as 20 times greater than if the parents were married. (Robert Whelan, 1994)
Such details about the marital status of families are no longer available in official statistics. "It’s impossible now to find out about the relative risks of biological and non-biological parents because Whitehall no longer wants them to be collected. What’s needed is a proper research study which will give us the marital status of families involved in child abuse." (Robert Whelan, 1994)
Physical abuse is more common than sexual abuse in families, and it is mothers - not fathers - who are most likely to be violent to their children. The group defines such violence as being hit with a hard implement or a fist, kicked hard, shaken, thrown or knocked down, beaten up, choked, burnt or threatened with a knife or a gun. Some 11% of children studied had been the victims of such violence, with 49% of them saying that their attacker was their mother and 40% saying that the attacker was their father. (NSPCC)
American reports indicate that physical abuse is most likely to occur among lone mothers. In one such survey, unwed mothers reported a rate of "very severe violence" toward their children that was 71 times higher than the rate among mothers who lived with fathers. (Unidentified reports mentioned in the ZENIT article Traditional Families Protect Kids Best)
Mothers tend to spend more time than fathers with their children; and unwed mothers are under extra pressure because they have to rear children without assistance, and also because they are likely to be poor. (Richard Gelles, a leading American expert on family violence)
Child Maltreatment in the United Kingdom — A Study of the Prevalence of Child Abuse and Neglect, by NSPCC, Summary


32 posted on 03/24/2006 1:43:04 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: Farmerbob

I don't think she would off the old man for that. It must have been something pretty bad considering she didn't even try to hide it.


33 posted on 03/24/2006 1:43:19 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: js1138

You didn't grow up in my county darlin'. ;)


34 posted on 03/24/2006 1:44:16 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Paulus Invictus

What makes you assume automatically that the minister was at fault, either through an affair or by abusing his wife? You may be right, but at this point, there's no way to know, and you seem to assume it.


35 posted on 03/24/2006 1:47:40 PM PST by Defiant (Muslim Unitarian:There is no God but Abraham's, and Mohammed said he was his prophet.)
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To: js1138

"Sexual abuse of natural children by their father is rather unusual. Generally it's a stepfather."

Actually, it's a lot more common that you'd think. It's very under-reported, and most cases never come to the attention of the police.

Child welfare workers, though, know about these cases, as do shrinks, etc.

It's a sad business, but it happens...


36 posted on 03/24/2006 1:47:59 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: nikos1121
I see much speculation about what her motive might be - and perhaps there was one. Maybe the man was abusive to her or the children.

Or maybe, like an increasing number of women in the 30 and under set, she was a complete freakshow who did it because she felt like it.
37 posted on 03/24/2006 1:48:24 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Old_Mil

Well, at this point, we have no idea why she killed her husband. I'm sure more information will appear.


38 posted on 03/24/2006 1:49:21 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Farmerbob

I'm predicting this will come out:

No adultery or abuse by her husband.

She's had bouts of depression since her toddler was born.

Because of recent stressers, she just totally lost it.


39 posted on 03/24/2006 1:55:49 PM PST by RXSalesman
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To: outlaw1_2003

These kids need all of our prayers....


40 posted on 03/24/2006 1:55:49 PM PST by Kimmers
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