Posted on 03/24/2006 8:00:48 AM PST by Sweetjustusnow
The association between serial murder and homosexuality isn’t recent. Two gays compete for the spot of "world’s worst murderer." During the Nazi reign of terror, Auschwitz executioner Ludwig Tiene strangled, crushed, and gnawed boys and young men to death while he raped them. Though his grand total is uncertain, he often murdered as many as 100 a day. Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard) brutally destroyed the lives of 800 boys. Each lad was lured to his home, bathed and fed. Just as the poor boy thought "this is my lucky day," he was raped, then killed by being ripped or cut apart and either burned or eaten.
Well, are you leaving out two facts in your thinking? No 1: in your entire career you mix with only a small percentage of people in you locale, and No 2: a police office tends to interact only with the portion of the population selected out by violence behavior.
The root of the problem is not homosexuality. It is unrestrained desire (i.e. - lust, greed). Heterosexual promiscuity, homosexuality, sado-masochism, sexually motivated murder are aspects of the same underlying pathology. The difference is only one of degree. Remove moral and societal restraints and many will drop even the pretense of self-restraint as well. The temptation is simply too great to resist.
I didn't compare the articles line by line but both look to be nearly identical.
Nope. I arrested about 200 or so apparently Godly, church-going Christians for violent crimes, and maybe half a dozen known homosexuals for same. (Note: the "known" includes folks who were "in the closet" but had been busted for indecent acts in public restrooms.)
Most (i.e., 90%+) of the homosexual arrests I made were for public indecency and/or illegal narcotics.
Actually, we were discussing Ludwig Tiene, not Dahmer.
It is, I just looked at both. This is the same article.
If you can't challenge his results, I guess that's one way of dealing with them.
You realize there is a difference between stating the facts about a desctructive and sinful lifestyle and "attacking" anyone, don't you?
A previous thread on this subject was pulled earlier today because it deteriorated into name-calling.
I will just say, in this thread, that human beings have the capacity to be violent, and a certain percentage of them act on that capacity.
A list of historical murders by homosexuals is of historical interest, but little else. A similar list of similar crimes committed by heterosexuals would be far longer, as anyone who thinks about it knows.
The vast majority of people do not commit ugly, violent crimes. That is true whether you're talking about heterosexuals, homosexuals, Polish farmers, Brazilian nut gatherers, or any other group you would care to name.
In all cases, it is logically incorrect to project violent crimes committed by any individual onto others who happen to be in a similar ethnic, religious, or other grouping that matches that of the violent criminals.
Yes, homosexuals have committed terrible crimes. So have heterosexuals. So have people of any group. Most members of any grouping have NOT done so. Please don't project, folks.
Will we now use anecdotal stories to rebut hard evidence by formal studies? There are a number of research results posted on FR over the years that directly contradict your assertion.
There are a number of things wrong with your assessment. For one thing, we must believe your count with no records. When talking about a 97% heterosexual community and a 3% homosexual part, a slight undercount of the homosexuals you arrested makes a large per capita difference.
Another thing is that you are talking about a local population. What is the percentage of homosexuals in your local community? One more thing is that of the 200 you arrested, you don't know how many were homosexuals in the closet.
One final thing is that your numbers are suspicious. 200 of a heterosexual population of 271,000,000 and 6 of a homosexual population of 8,400,000 works out to almost precisely a 97% and 3% (7.36e-7 and 7.14e-7 respectively) per capita equivalence. If I wanted to assert that the per capita distributions were equivalent, I could easily cook numbers that would work out to that point.
Sorry, I'd have to see some hard numbers, not just those you remember while counter arguing on a discussion thread. Do you have something hard we can our teeth into?
I've got anecdotal info. Served on a grand jury for about 3 months (once a week) a few years ago. The two worst crimes (two cases) involved homosexuality, one was a murder, the other a potential rape. Of course, some of the other cases could have involved homosexuals but it wasn't stated or known.
Master bambam is gonegone.
I hope he took his Fruity Pebbles with him!
I think they were attached.
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