Clerics: Convert This Christian or He DIES

AP ^ | 03-24-06 | TheRobb7

[TheRobb7]

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Senior Muslim clerics demanded Thursday that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to ``pull him into pieces.''

[samcgwire]

WADR, I believe you are being extremely naive about the realities of this world. The 'small radical elements' are not small and they had the society they wanted before we took them down, and like a pig with lipstick, they've headed back out to the mud puddle the instant the door was left open. And runs through every strand of Mohammedan societies.

[samcgwire]

Used to be, meaning in Afghanistan.

[Magnum44]

For a newbie with a home page that says nothing more about yourself than that you like childrens songs, you should be more humble when you criticize others about whom you know nothing.

[samcgwire]

Is that the best you have???

[hang 'em]

And we defended these people... why?

Because we haven't got the will to kill 200 million people for starters.

We probably only need to kill the clerics. Which at a rate of say, 1 cleric per 100 lay moslems, would reduce the killing to just 12 million (1.2 billion / 100). Pretty small price to pay to excise the mohammaden tumor from the planet.

[Magnum44]

Is that the best you have???

Your childishness shows. If you have something intelligent to debate, do so. If you want to call others naive because they simply differ with your thinking (which you have provided nothing to give yourself any credibility), please find someone else to bother.

[samcgwire]

I have no problem steering clear of the ignorant.

[jan in Colorado]

This is a beginning.

I agree. No matter how this turns out, this ONE case is exposing, to many that are blind, the true evil of islam. The persecution of Christians will only help it to spread...IMHO.

[Magnum44]

I don't disagree with you. I think that this case exposes to those that say Islam is a ROP, that they must acknowledge that it has problems, inconsistencies in its teachings. Mohammad, being only a prophet, and not the Son, like too many before him, missed the boat about what God gave us in the new covenant, and like the pharisees, concerns himself more with legalisms and maintaining power than Gods will.

But religion aside, this exposes the true nature and problem with these clerics. They are like our left, leading perhaps a quarter or a third of the population through propaganda, fear, and intimidation. When they don't get what they want, they threaten to do their version of the million man march on Kabul, and the MSM eats it up.

The Afghan people have never had a choice in the matter before, now they do. Lets see how they handle this choice.

[Larry Lucido]

Okay, okay. That was, however, in deference to your longevity and knowledge, which I respect. I agree to a cease-fire, but I do have to step up and defend the President where I think it's due. I just posted this on another thread a few seconds ago:

"You know, Ronald Reagan took a lot of sh!t from the right for not doing enough fast enough regaring eastern Europe and Central America (George Will: "Reagan likes commerce more than he hates communism" in response to perceived inaction on Poland), let alone Russian and China. Don't say he didn't, I was around then campaigning and defending him from the left and right in two elections. Turned out the dude didn't do too badly.

"Now, if ya wanna talk borders and spending, I'm probably more willing to turn up the heat along with ya."

Pastor, I KNOW folks cringe when someone compares President Bush to Reagan, but some comparisons are apt.

We should have destroyed the Afghan government and gotten the hell out.

Gotta disagree with you there. No, nationbuilding isn't something we should be doing. But leaving a complete vacuum isn't smart, either. Isn't it acknowledged that that is how we ended up with the series of "Butchers of Kabul" culminating in the Taliban? Some presence is needed to prevent the worst outcomes - it ain't gonna be Peoria overnight. Hell, it ain't even gonna be Ithica for a while.

Finally, I've tried to make the point that Mr. Rahman wouldn't even have been a footnote five years ago. For the first time, he might have a chance. And to get off on a slight tangent, I DO believe that God intends for his Word to be delivered (by ordinary means) to the Middle East in the forseeable future, and some of this will start coming to a head for a reason.

So, yes, keep the heat turned up on high, but let's keep our guns trained on the enemy. Okay, thanks for listening.

[jan in Colorado]

I disagree about "Mohamed being a prophet."

After Jesus, there was no need for any more prophets, and islam does not recognize Jesus as the Son of God.

Either Jesus or Mohamed are lying, and it's not too hard to figure out which one is righteous and which one is evil! An ideology that FORCES submission and does not allow free will, is, IMO, not a religion but a cult.

We can debate the authenticity of islam on another thread...

The Afghan people have never had a choice in the matter before, now they do.

I would add...MUSLIMS still don't have a "choice," but hopefully the time is approaching where they will have the FREEDOM to choose for themselves what/Who they want to believe and worship!

[Magnum44]

Didnt mean to imply I personally claimed he was a prophet, but that is how Islam views him.

I also dont believe John Smith was a prophet, and I wish the Mormons would stop door knocking:)

[jan in Colorado]

Oh, OK! ;o)

[Magnum44]

PS, I like your homepage :)

[jan in Colorado]

Thank you.

[jan in Colorado]

PING!

God intends for his Word to be delivered (by ordinary means) to the Middle East in the forseeable future, and some of this will start coming to a head for a reason.

[blinachka]

I agree. I do find the pandering to moslems and groups (terrorist supporting ones at that) like CAIR by trying to make out the so-called fanatics as some small fraction of moslem believers quite tiresome. That;s simply NOT the way it is when it comes to the death-cult known as islam.

I also happen to think anyone who calls islam a "religion of peace" looks like a fool (and obviously don't know a thing about it).

[Magnum44]

Well, based on the latest...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603338/posts

it appears that Afghans constitutional test has been punted down the road. There will be another case like this no doubt, but the outcome of this one, even though undefinitive, already seems to give freedom of religion the edge over sharia law in Afghanistan. Like anywhere is though, that freedom will not come free. Now when the Afghan govt is will to put the kabosh on clerics advocating violence, then they will have really stepped out of the stone age.