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ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

LOL!


1 posted on 03/23/2006 1:51:25 PM PST by the anti-liberal
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(((ping)))

For your list?

2 posted on 03/23/2006 1:52:41 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: the anti-liberal

Interesting. This study is certainly one way to get back at the kids who dared leave their tribe!


3 posted on 03/23/2006 1:53:41 PM PST by twigs
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To: the anti-liberal

conservative kids were whiney as kids,
liberals are whiney as adults.

on group grew up, the other didn't.

I'll lump this in with the "global warming" studies.


4 posted on 03/23/2006 1:54:14 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.(one nation, under sharia))
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As I said yesterday, look to the parents. Whiny liberals have whiny little kids which grow up to be conservative when they find out whiny does not work.
6 posted on 03/23/2006 1:57:16 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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And here's the key, from my personal observation: the researchers get it all wrong! They often have some esoteric psychological/behavioral academic fad they're trying to prove, so they ascribe the most bizarre and ludicrous motivations for the kids' actions, scribbling notes about "ego resilience" and "crypto-sexual manifestations" and blah blah blah. It would be comical if if wasn't taken so seriously.

Hey!

It's nearly as accurate as divining the future from animal entrails.

And they're working very seriously to reach a comparable level of accuracy.

7 posted on 03/23/2006 1:58:46 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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Ok, so conservatives were whiney children. All available data shows liberals are whiney adults which is much much worse.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 2:01:19 PM PST by BadAndy (Islam is a religion of submission. YOUR submission.)
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Better to have been a whiney kid than a whiney adult:


12 posted on 03/23/2006 2:05:34 PM PST by FReepaholic (I was FReepin' when FReepin' wasn't cool.)
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To: the anti-liberal
If this Tipster is correct; HA HA HA HA HA HA! Hilarious.Just freaking hilarious, and SOOOO typical of a Liberal study.
13 posted on 03/23/2006 2:07:34 PM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: the anti-liberal
I thought there must be more to this story. Thanks.

btw, Who is that beautiful lady in your sig?

16 posted on 03/23/2006 2:09:05 PM PST by mikeus_maximus (Islam is as Islam does.)
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-I'm now suspicious of Malkin using steroids, because she just blasted this study out of the stadium.

I was skeptical from the onset, myself, since there are no conservatives in Berkeley. None. Well, maybe in the big homes up on the hills, but they're not going to send their kids to some local daycare.


17 posted on 03/23/2006 2:11:54 PM PST by Gunflint
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To: the anti-liberal
I figured as much when I saw this was a UC Berkeley study. Are there any conservatives around there? :) Besides, I probably could have been considered whiny. And I might've been a liberal if I hadn't met my husband and gotten knocked upside the head.
18 posted on 03/23/2006 2:14:20 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: the anti-liberal; triver; Braak; eazdzit; Stellar Dendrite; George - the Other; PROSOUTH; ...

Malkin ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Michelle Malkin ping list...

21 posted on 03/23/2006 2:18:27 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: the anti-liberal

My blog entry on the subject:

The study is total crap, of course, because it's full of subjective analysis under the guise of scientific impartiality. What is "visibly deviant," anyway? And the idea of labeling toddlers as "deviant" is in any case a little bit appalling.

But let's take the study on its own merits. Look at the child behaviors the study views as "bright" and "non-conforming," and, more to the point, correlative with future liberalism:


Behaves in a dominating manner (Note that this is the second-highest correlative with liberalism, after "talkative")
Is aggressive physically or verbally
Attempts to transfer blame to others (This is a positive trait?)
Tends to be judgemental of others
Can admit to own negative feelings (We all know this one: The child whose favorite phrase is "I hate you!")
Tends to exaggerate, dramatize mishaps


I don't know about you, but I find it difficult to spin these personality traits as desirable. These are the behaviors, to put it plainly, of bullies.

On the other hand, the traits that the study correlates with future conservatism are quite different:


Appears to feel unworthy
Has a readiness to feel guilty
Anxious in unpredictable environment
Tends to brood and ruminate or worry
Is shy and reserved
Is fearful and anxious


These are the behaviors of, to say the least, children who can be described as sensitive and thoughtful. Note that the Star story that introduced the study to the world summarizes the future conservatives as "whiny." Since when does "shy and reserved" equal whiny? "Tends to exaggerate, dramatize mishaps"--a prime liberal correlate--sounds a lot more whiny to me.

But the biggest problem I have with the study is that it politicizes four year olds, which feels like child abuse. I can't help thinking that people are going to take this study seriously, and are going to punish or ridicule children for being "little Republicans" if they're at all quiet and sensitive. And that infuriates me.


23 posted on 03/23/2006 2:19:21 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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Yo!! Drudge!!

Need a follow up dude!

24 posted on 03/23/2006 2:21:07 PM PST by TexasCajun
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Possibly offspring of some of them, but until the DNA tests come in, I'm suspecting Bill.


28 posted on 03/23/2006 2:30:02 PM PST by mathurine (ua)
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or, another possible conclusion could be that people's political proclivities are set at a very early age, and these children were born conservatives stuck in a liberal environment, and so whined about it, as children do.


30 posted on 03/23/2006 2:32:10 PM PST by munchtipq
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What is so significant about this? Well, the Harold E. Jones Child Study Center is only open to children of U.C. Berkeley faculty and staff:

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31 posted on 03/23/2006 2:36:43 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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ROFL!!!!

The Lefties nailed again......

Keyword .....Whiny Kids

32 posted on 03/23/2006 2:37:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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The following claim, which I heard long ago, seems to be true:

"The conclusion of almost all sociological studies are either (a) self-evident or (b) false."

36 posted on 03/23/2006 2:47:35 PM PST by Erasmus (Eat beef. Someone has to control the cow population!)
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I wonder why the researcher would keep this information secret?

Just kidding.
44 posted on 03/23/2006 3:01:22 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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