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SCOOP: WHO ARE THE WHINY KIDS?
michellemalkin.com ^ | March 23, 2006 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 03/23/2006 1:51:23 PM PST by the anti-liberal

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Haha, no, I actually got dragged here by the Army, but now I'm grateful to be away from my family's craziness. :)
41 posted on 03/23/2006 2:52:35 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: Gunflint

There is at least 1!


42 posted on 03/23/2006 2:52:53 PM PST by Keyga8tor
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To: the anti-liberal

You just might be able to run for President on that platform. STOP GLOBAL WHINING.

It's terribly attractive.

But abandon all hope for we already have Michelle slotted for the '12 Presidential Slate with Condi as her running mate...a mere "heartbeat away" from the Presidency.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 2:56:42 PM PST by CBart95
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To: the anti-liberal
I wonder why the researcher would keep this information secret?

Just kidding.
44 posted on 03/23/2006 3:01:22 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Mike Darancette

I thought it hard to believe they were able to keep track of the participants for as long as they did -- now that I understand how they got their participants, I get it now.

Although one must wonder, "why did it take them 20 years to reach this conclusion?"



45 posted on 03/23/2006 3:01:27 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: the anti-liberal

Bless you for this!

Turns out: All kids are whiny.

Some never grow up.

Those are Democrats...

and their wannabees.


46 posted on 03/23/2006 3:01:30 PM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

You know, now that I think about it - how did the so-called "researchers" qualify and quantify 'whiny' as a variable for study anyway?


47 posted on 03/23/2006 3:09:26 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Erasmus

well, unlike most people who are trying furiously to discredit the research because the conclusions were faulty, i think something interesting could come of this. clearly these children had a lot of things in common environmentally speaking, which makes any conclusions shaky. but if similar studies were carried out with groups in a a) primarily conservative and b) mixed community it could be interesting to see the results. if the results were reversed, this would lead to very different conclusions than what the media is reporting for this story.

(by the way, never trust the media's reporting of conclusions in a scientific paper. they will take a sentence prefaced with 6,000 'maybe's and 'possibly's and giant warning signs saying that this is just speculation and report it as something 'proved' by a piece of research.)

anyways, that's my take on it.


48 posted on 03/23/2006 3:21:09 PM PST by munchtipq
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To: the anti-liberal
how did the so-called "researchers" qualify and quantify 'whiny' as a variable for study anyway?

That's the thing...the actual study doesn't use the word. The use of the word "whiny" only began with the Toronto Star article about the study.

49 posted on 03/23/2006 3:21:55 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: denydenydeny; munchtipq
"(by the way, never trust the media's reporting of conclusions in a scientific paper. they will take a sentence prefaced with 6,000 'maybe's and 'possibly's and giant warning signs saying that this is just speculation and report it as something 'proved' by a piece of research.)"

"That's the thing...the actual study doesn't use the word. The use of the word "whiny" only began with the Toronto Star article about the study."

Seems you two are validating one another... :^)

50 posted on 03/23/2006 3:27:06 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: the anti-liberal
"With this fact in hand, we can completely turn the study around:"

As Orwell wrote in his essay, "The Prevention of Literature" ...

... Freedom of the intellect means the freedom to report was one has seen, heard, and felt, and not to be obliged to fabricate imaginary facts and feelings

... What is really at the issue is the right to report contemporary issues truthfully, or as truthfully as is consistent with the ignorance, bias, and self-deception from which every observer necessarily suffers.

... and that if you possess information that conflicts with the prevailing orthodoxy you are expected to either distort it or keep quiet about it.

... But what is sinister, as I said at the beginning of this essay, is that the conscious enemies of liberty are those to whom liberty ought to mean most … the direct, conscious attack on intellectual decency comes from the intellectuals themselves.


51 posted on 03/23/2006 3:50:47 PM PST by George - the Other (400,000 bodies in Saddam's Mass Graves, and counting ...)
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To: Right Cal Gal

"They were smart enough to be annoyed by dumba$$ moonbats even then!"

LOL!


52 posted on 03/23/2006 4:06:03 PM PST by imskylark
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To: George - the Other
I always thought reporting was suppose to be an objective activity. Recently I've been disabused of that belief.

I still believe it should be though.

53 posted on 03/23/2006 4:07:51 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Toddlers and young children (generally aged between 2 and 5) frolic around and do activities as in any day care/nursery school/kindergarten setting. But the difference is there are adult researchers (some even with the proverbial clipboards) hovering around at all times, monitoring the kids, "observing" their behavior, writing down little notes and filling out charts about the kids' personalities and activities and so on."
Sounds like what the doctors did with the ahheem star voyagers down NASA's way.
54 posted on 03/23/2006 5:18:16 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"But the difference is there are adult researchers (some even with the proverbial clipboards) hovering around at all times, monitoring the kids, "observing" their behavior, writing down little notes and filling out charts about the kids' personalities and activities and so on."

So of course they had a control group of kids who weren't being hovered over and monitored, right? /sarc

55 posted on 03/23/2006 11:10:25 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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56 posted on 03/24/2006 10:09:34 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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57 posted on 03/24/2006 10:10:42 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: the anti-liberal; Congressman Billybob

I remember the Jost "article."

Upon researching what exactly is meant by "meta-analysis" I realized how bad the scholarship there actually was. 'Pod.


58 posted on 03/24/2006 10:14:41 AM PST by sauropod ("War is the Devil's way of teaching Americans geography" - Ambrose Bierce)
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To: the anti-liberal

ROTF!!!!!!!


59 posted on 03/24/2006 11:04:35 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: the anti-liberal
"So of course they had a control group of kids who weren't being hovered over and monitored, right? /sarc"
Perhaps the kids found themselves also being observed on the sides and under to.
60 posted on 03/24/2006 12:13:24 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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