Posted on 03/23/2006 8:18:08 AM PST by takenoprisoner
More than 2,200 people have been arrested in Texas bars in the six months since the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission announced a crackdown on public intoxication, primarily targeting bars.
The arrests included people who were drunk in bars, who sold alcohol to a drunk person, or a drunk employee on the premises of a bar or restaurant with a license to sell alcohol, said Carolyn Beck, a spokeswoman for the TABC.
The commission has been responsible for enforcing the state's alcoholic beverage code for the past 70 years. In August, 2005, the agency announced it was beginning a crackdown on public intoxication, using both undercover and open operations.
The agency has used undercover agents before, Beck said. In a recent operation, agents infiltrated 36 bars in a Dallas suburb and arrested 30 people for public intoxication.
(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...
No, this is not the "most" fascist thing ever done:
In Switzerland, they'll notify your employer if you make "too many" purchases at the local liquor store!
I'll bet the TABC is planning that next!
No shit!
I'm guessing that you're smart enough to know that those are not the only two possibilities:
Taxis come to mind, especially for business travelers, as several of these were.
Also, several others arrested were registered hotel guests, arrested in the bar at the hotel where they were staying!
As of about three years ago, I haven't noticed any dearth of folks on this board willing to cheerlead pre-emption as policy. What goes around comes around, even it that's news to some.
"Doesn't the owner of the bar have a 4th amendment right to keep the cops out of his establishment?"
Apparently there are no rights left in Texas when it comes to alcohol and tobacco.
Thanks for the ping!
I am not "supposedly" Gabz' husband........
And just like my wife I have no problem with limiting smoking in "public" places. My problem is with the definition of "public" that you totalitarians have distorted.
Please let me know when you have opened up a bar or restaurant or pool hall or bingo hall with "public" (read taxpayer) money and then I will agree the JBT can come in anytime and bust anyone for anything.
You're right, I haven't posted in a long time - people like you and the original post I responded to are the reason I don't post here often. You give conservatives a VERY bad name.
My derned Sherrif could make a hole lotta money fer us if he had the cents to sting the local fitness clubs and YMCA showers for public nudity
Big Brother will come to power in the form of Big Nanny.
Small gvt conservatism as an political philosophy is dead.
God save the Republic!
Then you should have no problem with a warrentless search of your home and business. They may find a drunk, or a person impaired by prescription drugs. Better to round up everyone, to protect the children.
I was being sarcastic.
Me too :) For the life of me, I can see no reason to apprehend or arrest a person in a hotel bar. The patrons, and the hotel should litigate this. The hotel is likely to pass on a legal challenge, for a valid fear of having TABC revoke their license. The patrons/hotel guests may have some basis. Although I do not think that they will be looking forward to any free drink coupons at check-in anymore!
My brother was killed by a drunk driver a few years ago while Scott was on business in California. I am the sole person in this world who has the right to forgive the kid who killed him and I am the last person in this world that would advocate this type of action that is now occuring in Texas........
When we start arresting people because they might do something in the future, we have ceased to be free. This is ridiculous and shouldn't stand the test of constitutionality.
"Actually as we move closer and closer to thought crimes I'm guessing that it's going to be "I thought about having a drink/committing adultery/eating fried food" crimes."
Drinkcrime : The crime of consuming any beverage in a way that is disapproved by Big Brother, or consuming any beverage which is disapproved by Big Brother ("Milk is bad for you, therefore it is illegal. Pepsi and Coke are bad for you, therefore they're illegal. Unfiltered water is bad for you, therefor it's illegal. Beer is bad for you, therefore it's illegal.")
Foodcrime : The crime of consuming any food which is disapproved by Big Brother. Just imagine if ARA's and PeTA infiltrate Congress. ("Meat is bad for you, therefore it's illegal. Fish has mercury; any amount of mercury is bad for you, therefore fish is illegal. Cheese is bad for you, therefore it's illegal. Fried squash is bad for you, therefore it's illegal.") Any person guilty of foodcrime will be sent to Miniluv where they will be tortured by starvation until they agree to adhere to the government-mandated vegan diet.
I'm pretty sure in the "1984" universe, foodcrime and drinkcrime existed. I'm sure Victory Gin was non-alcoholic, and I'm sure veganism was mandated by BB. (remember the cafeteria scene where Parsons mentions that the beef in the beef stew "looks like meat, tastes like meat, isn't meat at all"? I interpreted that to mean that eating meat was forbidden by BB.)
"I joined this board thinking it was full of like-minded conservatives. I'm really getting my eyes opened over the last few months."
I would classify myself as more of a conservative-leaning libertarian. I cherish freedom. Freedom of speech (I will even defend my worst enemy's freedom of speech), freedom of the press (no matter how far left or far right the press can get...I listen to everybody on the radio from Alan Colmes to Rush Limbaugh to Alex Jones), freedom of assembly (if the government does something afoul of my constitutional rights, I will not stand still), freedom of petition, freedom of religion (I will respect what religion somebody belongs to or even if somebody doesn't believe in religion...I ask them to do the same), freedom to eat what I want, and freedom to drink what I want. Now on the subject of drugs, that's where I get into a gray area. My conservative side wants to keep all illegal drugs illegal, while my libertarian side wants to legalize marijuana but only make it available to adults (21 and older with valid ID, only available from a pharmacy, and mandatory monthly rations) with severe criminal consequences for anybody who either gives pot to a minor or sells pot without being authorized to by the government.
Your statistics are interesting but unfortunately sound a bit like a CNN factoid, or something Hillary Clinton might have recently said. I would guess that any secular statistics on Christianity assumes that most Americans are Christians. This could be true but "going to church won't make you a Christian any more than going into the garage will make you an automobile." (Source: Billy Graham) I tend to believe Billy Graham because the Scripture says the gate to destruction is broad and wide and many will be on it and the gate to life is straight and narrow and few will find it. Christianity is not inherited from one's parents as most assume.
Regarding the persecution of Christians, the Bible also says that in the last days perilous times will come. Christians only pray they can withstand the pain they will have to suffer. I do hope I have not convinced you by anything I have said here to join the ones who will persecute Christians. I am first a Christian and second an American, and am in both respects very fallible. Set your sights on God, not me.
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