GOP Would Have Booted Jesus: Hill

New York Post Online ^ | March 23, 2006 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ratcheted up her talk about religion yesterday - saying a GOP-sponsored bill making it a felony to be in the United States illegally would have "criminalized" Jesus.

Clinton, who's considered the Democratic front-runner for the 2008 White House race, made the comments at a hastily scheduled news conference about the House-passed bill aimed at illegal immigrants.

[The Red Zone]

Why I would like to give the Hope Diamond to the poor of India. What a travesty is the law forbidding me to do that.

[tkathy]

Demagoguery is alive and well in the DNC (Demagoguery NC)

[Raycpa]

Would you care to name a nation that is "simply being obedient" to the will of God?

The question is that if any nation acted in obedience to God's will, would God let it be hurt because of it?

[The Red Zone]

Bring out your assumptions that for you to sneak around this nation's laws is somehow causing the nation to "obey God's will." Because they have been there all the time.

[Wormwood]

Would you care to name a nation that is "simply being obedient" to the will of God?

The Taliban had a pretty good run.

[Raycpa]

Gospel does not scale up past 1.

?? Can I get the greek or hebrew version?

[The Red Zone]

A "country's" soul is not saved.

[Raycpa]

Why, that's how you've been talking all along.

I think your projecting to me something I didn't say.

[peyton randolph]

Jesús, Maria, y José became popular in hispanic countries because of the Catholic Church. in contrast, the U.S. has never had a single church exercise such influence over its citizens.

[don-o]

"The man says, "Get out of here
I'll tear you limb from limb"
I said, "You know they refused Jesus, too"
He said, "You're not Him
Get out of here before I break your bones
I ain't your pop"
I decided to have him arrested
And I went looking for a cop"

Bob Dylan's 115th Dream

[The Red Zone]

Projecting schmojecting.

[Raycpa]

BUT this aint no theocracy dont u no.

The article deals with Christianity.

[The Red Zone]

You are claiming dominion over your neighbor's property to benefit the needy. No can do.

[Free Baptist]

They are indeed biblically justifiable. The Scriptures recognize nationhood, and the Mosaic laws regarding strangers which sojourned with Israel were very restrictive and discriminatory toward those strangers, and bondservant-hood (keeping strangers as slaves for a limited number of years)was permitted under Mosaic order, too. Those laws had a particular purpose for the preserving of that nation and the Abrahamic seed down to the bringing forth of the nation's Messiah, Jesus Christ. The same procedures for dealing with "strangers" are not given to us to be universally applicable in laws regarding nationhood and the protection of borders.

Any nation has the right to know who are the ones among the people who are neither natural-born or naturalized citizens. This is for the nation's ultimate security and peace. We submit to the visa and alien registration regimes in any country where we do missionary work, if for no other reasons than to: 1.) demonstrate respect for their nation; and 2.) to certify that our presence there is not suspect of being harmful to their people. That's all we really require from visitors or immigrants to this country.

[Raycpa]

How exactly does the parable of the Good Samaritan relate to folks illegally crossing our southern border?

For a Christian, this parable explains more about what Jesus taught. According to Jesus we are to love our neighbor as we love oursleves. For Jews, this wasn't meant to love EVERYONE. So Jesus used the equivalent of a despised illegal alien (a samaritan) to demonstrate what kind of love he was talking about and what lengths we should go to.

Does our law on aliens allow for the kind of treatment Jesus says is our duty?

[Raycpa]

Nothing is stopping you from going to Mexico and being as generous as you wish, or from sending your money to Mexico if that's how you want to do it.

This is changing the subject from whether our laws are biblical, isn;t it?

[Raycpa]

You can't "repent" on behalf of the fellow Americans who chose to implement the law, by sneaking and breaking it.

Nor does it give me license to change what God says I should do.

[The Red Zone]

No, it has vast implications. Your approach can be easily demolished by the reduction ad absurdum.

[JohnLongIsland]

even the son of GOD is subservient to the laws of the state in the beast's secular view of life. this statement shows how deep a hatred the beast has and always has had for religion and especially christianity, now if it was mao, her true GOD, in the usa illegally i'm sure she couldn't roll the red (no pun intended) carpet out quick enough.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Didn't Jesus give us the second greatest commandment to love our neighbor as ourselves? Is throwing someone out an act of love?

I recall the instruction not to ‘have fellowship with sin’...

(“Thou shalt not steal.” Theft is definately considered sin by the Ten Commandments...)

So, help them get Salvation and send them home to preach the Word like you (and they) are instructed to...