Posted on 03/22/2006 8:01:47 PM PST by neverdem
WASHINGTON — And now, polygamy.
With the sweetly titled HBO series “Big Love,” polygamy comes out of the closet. Under the headline “Polygamists, Unite!” Newsweek informs us of “polygamy activists emerging in the wake of the gay-marriage movement.” Says one evangelical Christian big lover: “Polygamy rights is the next civil-rights battle.”
Polygamy used to be stereotyped as the province of secretive Mormons, primitive Africans and profligate Arabs. With “Big Love” it moves to suburbia as a mere alternative lifestyle.
As Newsweek notes, these stirrings for the mainstreaming of polygamy (or, more accurately, polyamory) have their roots in the increasing legitimization of gay marriage. In an essay 10 years ago, I pointed out that it is utterly logical for polygamy rights to follow gay rights. After all, if traditional marriage is defined as the union of (1) two persons of (2) opposite gender, and if, as gay marriage advocates insist, the gender requirement is nothing but prejudice, exclusion and an arbitrary denial of one’s autonomous choices in love, then the first requirement — the number restriction (two and only two) — is a similarly arbitrary, discriminatory and indefensible denial of individual choice.
This line of argument makes gay activists furious. I can understand why they do not want to be in the same room as polygamists. But I’m not the one who put them there. Their argument does.
Blogger and author Andrew Sullivan, who had the courage to advocate gay marriage at a time when it was considered pretty crazy, has called this the “polygamy diversion,” arguing that homosexuality and polygamy are categorically different because polygamy is a mere “activity” while homosexuality is an intrinsic state that “occupies a deeper level of human consciousness.”
But this distinction between higher and lower orders of love is precisely what gay rights activists so...
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The APA doesn't seem to need lots of pressure to do stupid things. I blame them for that one.
having several cable networks devoted exclusively to homosexuals,
I haven't heard of a single one. And any such network that does exist does so either as a result of the extremely focused marketing that cable enables and is there as a result of the profit motive. Any exception to this rule is an NPR-esque, donation-funded money pit.
having several network TV shows devoted exclusively to homosexuals,
See above.
having "sexual orientation" written into every non-discrimination clause in every legal document,
This isn't federal law. Blue states will do what blue states will do.
and having instilled fear of prosecution into anyone who dares speak out about homosexuality,
No offense, but speak for yourself.
Are you serious?
You haven't heard of a single gay themed network?
Bravo and Logo come to mind. You can do an internet search and find more. Several shows on MTV, VH1, E, Oxygen, etc. also exitst.
Gay themed T.V. shows? Try "Will and Grace," "Ellen Degeneris," "Rosie O'Donnel," "Kids in the Hall," again...google it.
My company is in Colorado Springs, CO...one of the reddest cities in a red state available...we have "sexual orientation" listed in our non-descrimination clauses...I challenge you to find a non-descrimination clause for any conservative company in Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, or ANY other purely Red state that does not include this phrase.
If you are not cowed into feeling uneasy speaking against homosexuality, good for you. You are in the minority.
You may just not be paying attention, or you may have your head purposely burried in the sand.
I'm aware that gay TV shows exist. They are targeted towards a very specific market. And their ratings reflect this. Here, knock yourself out.
That non-discrimination clause was put their at your company's own initiative. Someone decided that work output is more important than sexual orientation. Which is not a bad thing, especially if it prevents gay affirmative action.
And the day that I ever fear anyone enough to avoid expressing an opinion about them is the day that I have a tag on my toe.
I said there were Gay networks. There are. Just because they have low ratings doesn't mean that they don't exist.
I said that there were gay themed TV shows. There are. Discounting them doesn't make them go away.
I agree that placing specific wording into company standards is the company's choice....a choice between getting sued or not.
My point is, and originally was, that homosexuals have made great strides in gaining acceptance by riding the coat-tails of the civil-rights movement.
I don't remember this wide-spread acceptance of everything queer while growing up. It is accepted, promoted, and widely defended now.
So again, what's your point?
Am I paranoid? Am I wrong? Am I homophobic?
All image, no substance; all bark, no bite; all hat, no cattle; paper tiger. Pick your colloquialism.
Not discriminating against homosexuals in an employment context is fine. I'll take a more productive Big Gay Al over a less productive Chuck Norris any day of the week.
Just because people don't instantly hate any gay person they meet doesn't mean that the world is falling apart. Voters draw the line when it comes to making legal changes to accomodate homosexuals. Hell, not even the blue states could pull together enough votes to introduce gay marriage into law. It happened in Kennedy-and-Kerry land by judicial fiat, and there's a constitutional amendment in the works to overrule that decision.
So no, I'm not worried. Brokeback Mountain floundered at the box office. Queer Eye's popularity can be attributed to novelty and nothing more (that Carthon is thooo thilly!). I guess that makes me not-homophobic, because I don't fear gays. I can't tell you whether or not you are; I can tell you that any fear you may have of the gay agenda is unfounded because that agenda isn't going anywhere.
I, too, believe that the pendulum is finally swinging the other direction; away from culturally-pressured acceptance of homosexuality.
Your definition of homophobia; not fearing the progress of the homsexual agenda; is an interesting one. It is traditionaly defined as simply opposing the homosexual agenda.
I'll concede your points regarding the fading star of homosexual popularity, but I'll maintain my dismay that our culture allowed it to progress as far as it has.
But then its only Thursday.. they'll get over the faux outrage..
Phobia = fear. There is nothing to fear from gays.
Well, that's what my husband keeps telling me.
GAY = Got AIDS Yet?
This is the whole crux of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.
Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.
Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.
Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).
This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... so, when someone uses the term "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are.
Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.
Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...
The polygamy argument takes them right back to Genesis and the war against the Judaic, Adam and Eve model in creationist belief, the war that the National Socialists waged against Judaic culture. Der Fuhrer had his brothels to breed a master race, a polyamorous mating program.
Mosaic Law (of which the Ten Commandments is just a part) is the foundation of Western Civilization. Genesis is the primary focus of the Declaration of Independence, from where our Constitutional rights are derived. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of our judicial system.
Moses wrote Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the book of Genesis is introduced.
The latter (Genesis) also ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.
It is no coincidence Islamic pagans hate Israel, Jews, Christians and Western Civilization. The entire basis of Western Civilization is Mosaic Law, something both the Neo-Pagan Left and the pagan Islamic thugs cannot abide and wish to destroy.
The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of a monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.
Historically, this is proven over and over again with the successive conflicts between the forces of paganism and the Judaic culture. (This includes the idolatry of Marxist paganism.)
Today, "morals" are defined by a quasi-religious pagan philosophy based on esoteric hobgoblins. A greater number of "atheists" and "pagans" adopt the same hackneyed tenets of a false Judaic-Christian ideal (golden calf). They also subscribe to the Judaic fetishism of "sin," but will fight to their death in denial of it. Most of them are so wrapped up in their own polemics that they have become nothing more than pathetic anti-Christians with the same false hypocritical philosophy. They just slap a new label on it hoping nobody will notice - - they replace the idea of "avoiding sin" with "morals."
Morality and all of its associated concepts are from the belief some higher power defines what is correct in human behavior. Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.
Contemplate the religious fervor associated with the pro-abortion advocacy. The societal practice of abortion is ritual mass murder upon the altars of conceit dedicated to idolatrous vanities, a collective human sacrifice before pagan idols.
It has a similitude to the Teutonic paganism of Adolph Hitler (whose idolatry was the idea of a "master race," among other things). In effect, these genocides are a mass human sacrifice to those pagan idols. The abortionists, like the National Socialists, incinerate the remains of their victims.
Aleister Crowley, who openly supported the National Socialists, was affiliated with Ordo Templi Orientis, A.A. (Order of the Silver Star) and other such occult lodges all across Germany. Crowley engaged in all manner of deviancy, homoeroticism, sadomasochism and murder. Much of the occultism in National Socialism is derived directly from there. Crowley envisioned himself as the Great Beast (To Mega Therion), just as der Fuhrer made himself in that image. Hitler's life as a struggling, inept artist was where that association blossomed.
Crowley's creed, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law," (which is actually from Francois Rabelais) and used by Neo-Pagan nutcases without attribution for obvious politically correct reasons, is with certainty no different than the National Socialist "will to power," or their ubermensch mentality.
It is also no accident Nietzsche's "over-man" and nihilist philosophy and resulting insanity from venereal disease closely mirrors the insanity of der Fuhrer.
These occult orders, sex and drug cults still survive today, as do the Neo-pagan, Neo-Nazi groups, black supremacist Rastafarian potheads, prison gangs and other related filth.
Crowley occultism is also from where L. Ron Hubbard emerges with Scientology. Note the NAZI symbolism of that kooky cult of weirdos and their deviant adherents who advocate homoeroticism and other perversions. Hollywood Cultural Marxists love Scientology.
All of these issues are related to the cultural war against Genesis!
Freaks.
OMG I never thought of that but I think gay a was around before aids wasn't it?
Gay Lothario
Or, no-fault divorce.
Nero made his horse a Senator of Rome. I think we might have a better government if we did that. Right now all we have is the south end of a bunch of northobound donkeys.
Thanks makes perfect sense now.
It is a religious rite that is privileged practice and requires a license... we can regulate it.
I gave you the case law.
I noticed you have no answer as to where “rights” come from... or what they are.
"Then again, it's the same irony that explains why felons and drug dealers get more ladies than responsible guys..."
But the question is.........what do those women look like?
Pretty scary I imagine.
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