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Polygamy upsets gay activists
Kansas City Star ^ | Mar. 19, 2006 | CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Posted on 03/22/2006 8:01:47 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON — And now, polygamy.

With the sweetly titled HBO series “Big Love,” polygamy comes out of the closet. Under the headline “Polygamists, Unite!” Newsweek informs us of “polygamy activists emerging in the wake of the gay-marriage movement.” Says one evangelical Christian big lover: “Polygamy rights is the next civil-rights battle.”

Polygamy used to be stereotyped as the province of secretive Mormons, primitive Africans and profligate Arabs. With “Big Love” it moves to suburbia as a mere alternative lifestyle.

As Newsweek notes, these stirrings for the mainstreaming of polygamy (or, more accurately, polyamory) have their roots in the increasing legitimization of gay marriage. In an essay 10 years ago, I pointed out that it is utterly logical for polygamy rights to follow gay rights. After all, if traditional marriage is defined as the union of (1) two persons of (2) opposite gender, and if, as gay marriage advocates insist, the gender requirement is nothing but prejudice, exclusion and an arbitrary denial of one’s autonomous choices in love, then the first requirement — the number restriction (two and only two) — is a similarly arbitrary, discriminatory and indefensible denial of individual choice.

This line of argument makes gay activists furious. I can understand why they do not want to be in the same room as polygamists. But I’m not the one who put them there. Their argument does.

Blogger and author Andrew Sullivan, who had the courage to advocate gay marriage at a time when it was considered pretty crazy, has called this the “polygamy diversion,” arguing that homosexuality and polygamy are categorically different because polygamy is a mere “activity” while homosexuality is an intrinsic state that “occupies a deeper level of human consciousness.”

But this distinction between higher and lower orders of love is precisely what gay rights activists so...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: gayrights; homosexualagenda; krauthammer; pansexuals; polygamy; slipperyslope
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To: Gordongekko909

How about eight gay wives?


101 posted on 03/23/2006 2:18:38 AM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: Gordongekko909

There are breakaway sects of Mormons that have not given up polygamy. Not very many members. They tend to live in small communities in the western states, where everybody in town belongs to their sect, so they cover for each other against outside law enforcement.


102 posted on 03/23/2006 2:37:04 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Thunder90


It sure as hell offends and disgusts me.


103 posted on 03/23/2006 3:19:00 AM PST by tonenili
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To: pandoraou812
Osama bin Laden is the child from a polygamous marriage. If he had just Dad and Mom around, likely they would have smacked him if he said "I'm going to take the family business and blow things up around the world."

SMACK! "No, you don't. You start pouring cement like all the new workers do, boy. And take down those martyr posters. Your mother is getting upset."

"When are you going to date a NICE girl?"
104 posted on 03/23/2006 4:02:35 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Cheburashka

Maybe so but what if they all gang up on you? I wouldn't want to that man then would you? Worse would be all 8 gay lovers I think.


105 posted on 03/23/2006 4:38:29 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: Honcho Bongs
When the premise that there's nothing special about 1 man and 1 woman becomes the law, then there will be nothing special about a couple. Polygamy will prevail in the courts.

It has already been decided...

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made "separation of church and state" a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices.

"Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices..."

[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]

- - See also: Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States, 136 U.S. 1, 10 S.Ct. 792, 34 L. Ed. 478 (1890). Revised as 140 U.S. 665, 11 S.Ct. 884, 35 L. Ed. 592 (1891).

Congress, state legislatures and public referenda have statutorily determined polygamous, pederast, homosexual, and incestuous marriages are unlawful. No Constitutional Amendment restricting marriage is required to regulate "practice" according to the Reynolds decision.

Marriage is a religious "rite," not a civil "right;" a secular standard of human reproductive biology united with the Judaic Adam and Eve model of monogamy in creationist belief. Two homosexuals cannot be "monogamous" because the word denotes a biological procreation they are not capable of together; human reproductive biology is an obvious secular standard.

All adults have privilege to marry one consenting adult of opposite gender; therefore, Fourteenth Amendment "equal protection" argument about "privileges and immunities" for homosexual marriage is invalid. Driving, marriage, legal and medical practices are not enumerated rights; they are privileged practices that require statutory license. Nothing that requires a license is a right.

106 posted on 03/23/2006 5:14:59 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: jdm
What's worse: Being gay or having 8 wives?

That's easy: being gay.
107 posted on 03/23/2006 5:21:29 AM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: neverdem
The results of polygamy.
108 posted on 03/23/2006 5:25:39 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: neverdem
Everyone knew that multiple wives would come right after Queer marriage, I'm not surprised one bit.

Think what that would do to the SS system with the 50% spousal benefits??

Can everyone spell BANKRUPT in 10 years or less?

Health Insurance paid by your employer? HA HA HA HA, Forget about it you liberal morons that pushed for the queer marriage that led to this, you will get no insurance unless you pay 100% of the cost.

Medicare/Medicaid ? Another laugh riot. NO way Granny, that gets bankrupt too.

Everyone that thought allowing the sodomites to marry wouldn't ever effect them, needs to pull their head out of their a$$ and take a look around at the real world!
109 posted on 03/23/2006 5:31:05 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Porterville
What a horrible state of society when we relate male bondage, love, admiration, adoration, and mutual respect as homosexual. It is no wonder there is so much violence among the ignorant.

Did you mean male bonding, instead of bondage?

110 posted on 03/23/2006 5:35:55 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: MortMan

No, I meant bondage, with leather wips and hancuffs, and feather dusters... How can that be considered gay? ;)


111 posted on 03/23/2006 5:41:24 AM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
"Driving, marriage, legal and medical practices are not enumerated rights; they are privileged practices that require statutory license. Nothing that requires a license is a right."

Yet all of those things were practiced without requiring a license at some point in American History. Rather then attempting to determine if people have a "right" you should ask if government has an enumerated power to regulate such activity.
112 posted on 03/23/2006 5:41:33 AM PST by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: Porterville

Okay - I guess I just saw the sentence as a "one of these things is not like the other" kinda situation.

Have a good day.


113 posted on 03/23/2006 5:43:19 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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114 posted on 03/23/2006 5:44:00 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: DelphiUser

Hi!
Don't I know you from somewhere? :)


115 posted on 03/23/2006 5:49:41 AM PST by JRochelle
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To: BamaGirl
Why do gay activists get mad about polygamy?

Morality and all of its associated concepts are from the belief some higher power defines what is correct in human behavior. Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.

Mosaic Law (of which the Ten Commandments is just a part) is the foundation of Western Civilization. Genesis is the primary focus of the Declaration of Independence, from where our Constitutional rights are derived. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of our judicial system.

Moses wrote Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the Book of Genesis is introduced.

The latter (Genesis) also ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.

This is the whole crux of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.

Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.

Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.

Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).

This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... so, when someone uses the term "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are.

Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.

Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...

116 posted on 03/23/2006 5:59:46 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Durus
Rather then attempting to determine if people have a "right" you should ask if government has an enumerated power to regulate such activity.

No man can become a law unto himself under the guise of ‘freedom of religion.’

And, what about Roe v. Wade???

117 posted on 03/23/2006 6:04:42 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: MortMan

I did spell it wrong.


118 posted on 03/23/2006 6:06:30 AM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: bad company
With every wife comes another ste of inlaws. No thanks.

Sets of in-laws?

Forget about that.

Just think of the numbers of pairs of shoes!

119 posted on 03/23/2006 6:15:24 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: pandoraou812

In the end each person must make these decisions for himself.
Of course first you have to more than one woman to agree to marry you, otherwise the need to choose at all is not there.


120 posted on 03/23/2006 6:19:09 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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