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The Great (and Continuing) Economic Debate of the 20th Century
Imprimis/Hillsdale College ^ | March 2006 | Steve Forbes

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:37:40 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy

The great economic debate of the twentieth century was between collectivists and free-marketers. In one sense, the free-marketers won: When the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, it was widely acknowledged that Soviet socialism had been a catastrophic, not to say murderous, failure. But in another sense, the debate continues. Democratic capitalism still has not vanquished the idea of collectivism. Far from it.

At the beginning of the last century, free markets seemed to be on the ascendancy everywhere. But two events gave collectivism its lease on life. The first was World War I. In addition to the slaughter—and to breeding the ideologies of communism, state fascism, Nazism, and even the Islamic fascism we are battling today—World War I served as an intoxicating drug to those in the West who believed that a handful of people in government could manage affairs better than the messy way in which free peoples tend to do so. Massive increases in government powers, coupled with massive increases in taxation, gave many the idea that you can achieve massive increases in production by commandeering the financial resources of society.

The second event that served as a boon to collectivism was the Great Depression, which was widely seen as a free-market failure. This view was false. Misguided government policies were at fault—the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, for instance, which dried up the flow of capital in and out of the country. If you track the stock market crash of 1929, it parallels the course of this tariff bill through Congress. When Smoot-Hawley arose in the fall of 1929, the markets fell; when it looked like the tariff bill was sidetracked in late 1929, the markets revived (the Dow Jones went up 50 percent from its lows in November); in the spring of 1930 it was signed into law, and the rest is history. There were other factors at work in the Great Depression, of course, such as President Hoover’s gigantic tax increases of 1931. But despite the fact that these also involved bad policies, the lesson taken away by many was that economies will implode unless the government manages them. John Maynard Keynes, the intellectual guiding light behind New Deal economics, believed that an economy was like a machine: If you put doses of money into it or pull money out at the right times, he thought, you can achieve an equilibrium. This idea that government can drive an economy as if it were an automobile has had baleful consequences.

Other leading economists at the time, such as Joseph Schumpeter, recognized that an economy is an aggregate of disparate activities—thus that the idea of achieving equilibrium, while it makes for a neat theory, is nonsense in the real world. A vibrant economy is full of constant disequilibria: New enterprises rise up, old ones decline, etc. Snapshots of such economies mean very little. In the real world, therefore, free markets operate rationally and efficiently in a way that government regulators simply can’t. Here in America we came to this realization at the end of the 1970s. Following World War II, we largely bought into the idea that government must play an active role to prevent the economy from going off the cliff. But in the late 1970s, the devastation of inflation and high taxes brought about a reassessment. With the election of Ronald Reagan, the U.S. took a step back from Keynesian economics. Since then, as Western Europe has stagnated—creating, for instance, only a fraction of the private sector jobs that the U.S. has created—our country has undergone an economic revival.

Nonetheless, democratic capitalism often still seems on the defensive. Why?

Is Democratic Capitalism Good?

One of the great vulnerabilities of capitalism is the perception that it is somehow less than moral, if not positively amoral. A common view of business was depicted in the movie Wall Street, in which Michael Douglas’s character made famous the phrase, “Greed is good.” Capitalism is widely seen as promoting selfishness. We tolerate it because it gives us jobs and prosperity, but many look on this as a Faustian bargain. Charity and capitalism are seen as polar opposites. Thus there’s a phrase that’s often used today—I myself use it from time to time without thinking—which is “giving back.” If you’ve succeeded in business, it’s counted a good thing if you “give back” to the community. And charity is, of course, a good thing. The problem with this phrase is its implication that by succeeding, we have taken something that wasn’t ours. The same idea is summed up in the cynical saying, “Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.” This way of thinking about democratic capitalism is wrong.

In fact, philanthropy and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. To succeed in business in a free-market economy, one must meet the needs and wants of others. Even someone who makes babies cry is not going to succeed unless he or she provides a product or a service that people want. This system weaves intricate webs of cooperation that we don’t even think about. Take a restaurant: Someone who opens a restaurant assumes that farmers will provide the food and that someone else will process and package it and that someone else will deliver it, having been supplied the fuel to do so by yet someone else, etc. These marvelous webs of cooperation happen every day throughout a free economy. No one is commanding it. It occurs spontaneously in a way that economists like Schumpeter understood.

Free markets also force people to look to the future and take risks. Misers do not found companies like Microsoft. Nor should we look on it as immoral for people to work for the betterment of themselves and their families. We are all born with God-given talents, and it is right to develop them to the fullest. The great virtue of democratic capitalism is that it guarantees that as we develop our talents, we’re contributing to the public good. Statistics show that the U.S. is both the most commercial nation and the most philanthropic nation in human history. And this is no paradox. The two go hand-in-hand.

Another vulnerability of democratic capitalism is that although it leads to progress and to an increase in our societal standard of living, progress is usually disruptive. This allows collectivists to play on people’s natural fear of change. We saw this with the rise of industrialism in the 19th century. We had paintings and writings depicting a pastoral agricultural past. Then railroads came along to disrupt the canals, and cars came along to disrupt the railroads. Buggy-whip makers and blacksmiths were done for. One can imagine what 60 Minutes would have been investigating 100 years ago: the poor blacksmiths being put out of work by Henry Ford. Likewise, when TV came along in the late 1940s and early 1950s, most movie theaters in the country went broke. Now the Internet is disrupting newspapers and Craig’s List is disrupting classified advertising. Disruptions are inevitable in a free-market system. The political challenge is to allow these disruptions to take place—they are ultimately constructive, after all—rather than reacting in a way that stymies progress.

In recent decades, collectivists have also hijacked the cause of environmentalism to promote their agenda. I’m not talking about the desire to have clean water; we’re all in favor of that. Or clean air; one of the great things we’ve done in the last century is getting lead out of the air. Saving tigers and elephants is also a good thing. I’m talking about those who use the mantra of environmentalism to try to control the economy the way the old-time socialists wanted to, breathing hellfire and damnation on those who don’t subscribe to their new, post-Christian religion. The fact is, if our goal is to improve the environment, increasing government regulation and destroying manufacturing is counterproductive. Affluence is the friend, not the enemy, of the environment. As people become better off, they want a higher quality of life, including environmental improvements. And new technology drives such improvements. Consider the east coast of the U.S. Even though its population has more than doubled—in some areas, it’s tripled—and even though there are more developments, malls, and urban sprawl, there are more trees today than there were 80 years ago. Why? Because of technology that allows us to grow more food on less land. Technology is a friend of the environment.

Additional Collectivist Myths

Let me mention three additional myths that are used to promote collectivism. One is the idea that demand is the key to economic growth. Collectivist economists often talk about means to increase “aggregate demand,” as if that would ensure that the economy will grow. Following Keynes, they assume that the economy is like a machine. But again, the economy is an aggregate of tens of millions of people, millions of businesses, millions of technologies. We don’t know how it interacts on a day-to-day basis. We don’t know what’s going to work or not work. Who could have conceived of eBay ten to twelve years ago? But today, 400,000 people make their livings on eBay. When Google was launched, there were ten other search engines. Who would have thought another one was needed? Isn’t that how you get so-called “bubbles”? But Google found a way to do it better and ended up on top. Innovation is the key. Whether it’s railroads, cars, computers, the Internet, or iPods, risk-taking is messy. It is often irrational, and seemingly wasteful. But it’s the only way to determine what works best and what doesn’t.

Another collectivist myth concerns trade. If I were dictator of the world—even though I believe in the First Amendment—I would ban trade numbers, especially merchandise trade numbers. They just lead to mischief. We are given the impression that a trade surplus is like a profit and a trade deficit is like a loss. But trade is not a transaction between countries. It takes place between parties. For example, Forbes magazine buys paper. For all of the 88 years that we’ve been in existence, we’ve run a trade deficit with our paper suppliers. If you look just at that trade deficit, you might think we are doing poorly. But if you look at the two parties involved, that turns out to be an illusion. The paper supplier thinks he’s going to make money selling his paper. We think we’re going to make money by taking the paper and putting print on it, with value added. So it’s a mutually profitable transaction, even if it looks like a trade deficit. Or consider a book printed in Taiwan. Looking at the trade number alone, it appears there is a two dollar trade deficit with Taiwan. Yet the book comes back here and retails for $24.95. The value added is in the U.S. The author gets a cut, the publisher gets a cut, booksellers get a cut, distributors get a cut, and remainder stores get a cut. Something similar happened with iPods: A lot of its parts are made overseas, but where is most of the value added? Here in the United States. North America has had a merchandise trade deficit for 350 out of the last 400 years, and we have done very well, thank you.

The final myth I’ll mention concerns budget deficits. Milton Friedman said several years ago that if he had a choice between a federal budget of $1 trillion that was in the red and a federal budget of $2 trillion that was balanced, he would take the former. Deficits, in and of themselves, are not evil. Deficits must be put in context, because Washington’s inability to curb spending is often used as an excuse to raise taxes.

Principles of Prosperity

Now let me turn to five basic principles of economic growth. First and foremost is the rule of law: Without individual equality before the law, entrepreneurs cannot challenge already existing businesses. Alliances between the latter and government regulators who place barriers before entrepreneurs must be guarded against.

The second essential principle is property rights. We take it for granted in this country that if you buy a piece of property, everyone acknowledges that you own it. Most countries don’t have that kind of uniform property system. A few years ago, Hernando DeSoto, a great economist from Peru, saw that in countries like his, although there is entrepreneurial activity, there isn’t the corresponding prosperity found in the U.S. And he wondered why. In his recent book—The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else—one of the key factors he cites is the absence in so many other countries of a legal foundation for property rights. In Brazil’s shanty towns, an individual may know that he owns the house in which he lives, and his neighbors may know it, but the fact is not recognized elsewhere.

Mr. DeSoto was asked by the Egyptian government a few years ago to determine who owns the businesses and residences in Egypt. His finding was that 88 percent of the businesses in Egypt are illegal. Why is that? Here in the U.S., it is possible to set up a business legally in a matter of days. In Egypt, it takes a couple of years. It requires going through numerous bureaucracies, doling out numerous bribes, etc. So it makes sense to proceed “informally.” On the other hand, running a business outside the law limits its growth. Most “informal” enterprises never grow beyond the level of family enterprises, because if they get too big, they might attract the attention of the tax collector. DeSoto’s group also reported that 92 percent of Egyptian housing is illegal. People living in residences may have deeds; but only a few miles away, those deeds are not recognized. In Egypt, as in so many other places, there is no uniform system of establishing and protecting property rights. As a result, four billion people around the world own $9 trillion of assets that amount to dead capital.

What do I mean by “dead capital”? Remember that here in the U.S., the most important source of capital for new ventures is not Wall Street, the local banker or the venture capitalist. It is the mortgage market. People either increase their mortgage or take out a second mortgage in order to start businesses. This is not possible in countries like Egypt. Understanding this was the key to Japan’s post-World War II economic boom. General MacArthur reformed a feudalistic property system, in which the peasants had only an informal system of property exchange, into a system with formalized property rights. Immediately, the Japanese economy took off. The importance of property rights is not sufficiently recognized by those of us who take them for granted.

The third principle of economic prosperity is low taxes. Taxes are not just a means of raising revenue for the government. They are also a price. Income taxes are a price paid for working; taxes on profits are the price paid for being successful in business; taxes on capital gains are the price paid for taking risks. In light of this, the importance of low taxes is easy to see: When you lower the price of good things—things like work, success and risk-taking—you tend to get more of them. Raise the price of these good things and you get less. In 2003, we lowered tax rates in the U.S. and the economy started to grow again. As we’ve seen time and again, tax cuts do not mean a loss of tax revenue. By increasing incentives, the government comes out ahead. Washington’s revenues in the last fiscal year were up 15 percent—$100 billion above expectations. Washington’s problem is not revenue, but spending.

The fourth principle I would mention is making it simpler to launch legal businesses. Getting bureaucracy out of the way will inject a new vibrancy into the economy. The fifth and final principle is free trade. Expanding markets and creating greater opportunity for trade benefits us all.

In closing, I will remind you of a point I made earlier: The reason that the great economic debate continues into the 21st century, despite the proven superiority of free markets in terms of delivering prosperity, is because of the misperceptions that keep democratic capitalism from capturing the moral high ground. Dispelling these misperceptions should be our priority as we carry on that debate in the years ahead.

"Reprinted by permission from IMPRIMIS, the national speech digest of Hillsdale College, www.hillsdale.edu."


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: capitalism; collectivism; economics; forbes; friedman; hayek; liberalism; mises; steveforbes
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To: evilC

Subsistance leavel, yes. But it was fairly stable. Remember, a lot of those subsistance farmers got tossed off "their land" and ended up in the chaos of the London slums...


101 posted on 03/22/2006 2:21:15 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: CowboyJay

I not only look upon myself as a sole-proprietor, I AM a sole-proprietor. Your decision can be superceded at any time by a hostile takeover. What then? Our decision in who we are able to sell our expertise to is becoming increasingly more limited by corporatism. Those corporations able to provide the most compensation to their employees will be those who act in the most ruthless fashion towards society as a whole. When just that isn't enough, they will turn inwards and become belligerent towards their own employees (outsourcing, downsizing, et c.).



I've actually met people I believe to be the future, or at least a part of it. Basically guys with highly specialized skill sets. They work in the arts and in high tech fields. They aren't company employees in the classic sense. They may work for as little as one day or as long as five years for one company before moving on to the next job. What is interesting is that they ping pong back and forth from seven or eight cities on the globe. One of these guys, I was shocked to learn, hasn't owned a landline for seven years. He just uses a cell phone.


102 posted on 03/22/2006 2:26:22 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: CowboyJay

OK, but what about the non corporate rent seekers, the home owners and Social Security recipients? They are abusing one set of "we the people" for their own benefit.


103 posted on 03/22/2006 2:33:49 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: durasell

Lots of them left voluntarily, because the opportunities, although slim, were better than those "on the land". I think it is too easy to fall into romantic illusions about pastoral bliss. Life before the industrial revolution was generally, in those famous words, "nasty, brutal and short". It was not even that stable, with the average "commoner" being one bad harvest away from starvation.


104 posted on 03/22/2006 2:43:02 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: evilC
"OK, but what about the non corporate rent seekers, the home owners and Social Security recipients? They are abusing one set of "we the people" for their own benefit."

Yup. Just as bad. The two sides, corporatism and socialism, point fingers and name-call one another. Meanwhile government just keeps-on growing and becoming more intrusive. I guess one can point to tax-exempt mortgages as another form of preferential treatment (very rare for the middle to actually get any scraps from the table). WtP pay the price in the end.

105 posted on 03/22/2006 2:57:41 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: evilC

Hey, I've read Blake!


It was also out of that chaos that marxism was born.

Ever check out the London Poor by Mayhew? -- there are online editions now.


106 posted on 03/22/2006 2:59:17 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
"What is interesting is that they ping pong back and forth from seven or eight cities on the globe. One of these guys, I was shocked to learn, hasn't owned a landline for seven years. He just uses a cell phone."

They're just catching crumbs falling off the table. If there was enough volume to actually start a business (like a consulting firm) with more than one or two employees, it would eventually become a multinational corporate hire position, no matter how specialized the skill. Best way for them to drive-down cost.

The corporate animal abhorrs 'free radicals'.

The contractor model only works well for those not trying to raise a family, or keep a marriage together. It's not really a stable lifestyle. Return to the old 'company-store' economy would be more my guess for where America will be in 25 years. Ambition drives innovation. Who's going to have ambition once there's literally no way to 'get-ahead'?

I've personally more-or-less dropped out of the conventional economy myself. I offer services to individuals on a fee basis. I don't make much, but I don't need to at this point. I enjoy it, and I get to help people.

107 posted on 03/22/2006 3:17:39 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay

They may be "catching crumbs," but they are integral to many of the businesses that hire them. The business plans depend on a steady flow of talent.

As I've been saying for some time, the old corporate model doesn't make much sense anymore. Too much infrastructure, too many employees, unreliable markets.

A more efficient model is the one used in the movie business. Bring talent together for relatively short periods of time, do the project, and then disband.


108 posted on 03/22/2006 3:22:05 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

"As I've been saying for some time, the old corporate model doesn't make much sense anymore. Too much infrastructure, too many employees, unreliable markets."

As inefficient as the corporate model is, it will continue, until it quits getting preferential treatment under the law. These monstrous corporate entities have taken on a life of their own, and no longer serve their masters. IMHO, they're no longer benign in nature (if they ever were).

Enjoyed the discussion, BTW. :)


109 posted on 03/22/2006 3:54:51 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay

I was thinking more of specific functions within the corporate model. For instance -- why do I need a bunch of lab rats on salary to create a new pill for flatulance when I can higher a couple dozen on the open market, toss them together for three to five years, and have my pill.
In the same way, why do I need a large staff of programmers to create a new piece of software?

Corporations are neither bad nor good. They are simply machines. They blindly seek market advantage and increased profits, because that -- despite all the skillful public relations and advertising -- is the reason they exist.
The general well-being and welfare of the population in which they do business is far outside of their concerns and field of expertise.


110 posted on 03/22/2006 4:03:17 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: CowboyJay

We the people vote for it, lobby for it and punish politicians who do not deliver. Every Paul is trying to rob Peter, but every Peter is also trying to rob Paul. We can not blame corporations it seems to be part of human nature to want to get something at another's expense. Democracy just means that we all get to play that game.


111 posted on 03/22/2006 4:12:13 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: A. Pole

ping.....


112 posted on 03/22/2006 4:13:00 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)
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To: Mase
"Collectivism is not driven by rational self-interest or profit. It is driven by a perceived duty to the state."

No. You're confusing collectivism with statism, or nationalism. Collectivism is not driven by a perceived duty to the state. Collectivism is driven by social herd-instinct. In the case of Communism, it was initiated by the masses in reaction to perceived slights by the elites. In the case of Stalinism, it's driven by the elites in an effort to keep down the masses. Both forms abhorr individualism and personal freedom. Don't kid yourself... Corporatism is fascism with a new haircut and wardrobe.

113 posted on 03/22/2006 4:22:24 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay

May I ask what state you live in?


114 posted on 03/22/2006 4:24:22 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

>>>
Hey, I've read Blake!
<<<

It appears that I have not, who is he?


>>>
It was also out of that chaos that marxism was born.
<<<

True, but only because capitalism lifted many, but not all, people from grinding poverty. Those who were not lifted from poverty looked for some reason outside of themselves for their outcome. The creation of a middle class gave others a new point of comparison. Where before, just about everybody was poor, now the remaining poor had a middle class of which to be jealous.

I will look up Mayhew's book.


115 posted on 03/22/2006 4:26:06 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: evilC

Here is mayhew..

http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/MayLond.html


William Blake -- poet in the early 1800s -- here's a poem...

I wandered through each chartered street,
Near where the chartered Thames does flow,
And mark in every face I meet,
Marks of weakness, marks of woe.

In every cry of every man,
In every infant's cry of fear,
In every voice, in every ban,
The mind-forged manacles I hear:

How the chimney-sweeper's cry
Every blackening church appals,
And the hapless soldier's sigh
Runs in blood down palace-walls.

But most, through midnight streets I hear
How the youthful harlot's curse
Blasts the new-born infant's tear,
And blights with plagues the marriage-hearse.


116 posted on 03/22/2006 4:31:18 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Mase

I gathered that the creative definition of collectivism means "a group of people with a shared interest." Any guesses what the new definition of "corporatism" means? "Anything related to an organization that issues stock to raise capital" is mine, but I can't really put my finger on it.


117 posted on 03/22/2006 5:00:45 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: durasell

I should point out that I had heard of William Blake. However, being a techie sort, English poets are not top of my mind, so I did not figure him from the context (I was thinking historian or economist etc).

It may also explain how I got Thomas Hobbes quote wrong. Hobbes described the life of man as being "[solitary, poor], nasty, *brutish*, and short."


118 posted on 03/22/2006 5:00:50 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: CowboyJay
If that were the case, you would be a sole-proprietor, and we would both be subject to prosecution. If you were part-owner in a corporation, you would not be. Hence, you would be granted preferential treatment under the law (inherently unconstitutional).

LOL
If that was truly the case (I'm laughing as I type), why don't pushers/gangs/whatever incorporate? Wouldn't that make their backers legally bullet-proof?

119 posted on 03/22/2006 5:03:28 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You'd better think twice the next time you see someone buy shotgun shells. If you own stock in Winchester (or its parent), you might be liable if they're used in a criminal or negligent fashion.


120 posted on 03/22/2006 5:12:22 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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