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Police: Man Killed Teen for Walking on Lawn (Ohio)
Las Vegas Sun ^
| 21 Mar 06
| Lisa Cornwell
Posted on 03/21/2006 3:03:05 PM PST by xzins
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To: deport
Sounds like more than just walking on the lawn.
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:43:54 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: Crispus Attucks Patriot
nah in Ohio this nutcase will get the needle.....
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:45:00 PM PST
by
MikefromOhio
(aka MikeinIraq)
To: TomGuy
Doesn't matter. Even formal written admissions get thrown out fairly regularly when things go to court. What may seem at first to be supporting or secondary evidence may become the centerpiece of the prosecution's case.
43
posted on
03/21/2006 3:46:07 PM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: William Tell
The conservative solution will be to demand more accountability from parents for their children's behavior.I'm going to assume you haven't read the facts in this case. If you have then I'm going to assume you are a nut job also.
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:47:08 PM PST
by
TXBubba
( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
To: The Worthless Miracle
Something tells me that there is more to the story. In Tug McGraw's book, "Ya Gotta Believe," he talks about his brother Dennis and how his mother used to rock him to sleep for hours and hours. Then one day his Mom goes out and leaves. He also went on to explain how Tug and his other brother Hank were excellent athletes and Dennis wasn't. then one day Dennis just leaves only to move in next to a neighbor who harassed him relentlessly. He would play loud music into the pipes, then Dennis would call the cops and they would come and then they would go and then the music would start up again. The years went on the harassment continued the complaints to the police continued only to fall on deaf ears. Then one day Dennis McGraw shot and killed this guy and even as the police pulled up he fired three more rounds into this guy. What this article doesn't tell you is how many times were the police called to this guy's house and if they were called isn't this a breakdown of our society in general.
To: deport
Geez, a warning shot would have been even too much.
46
posted on
03/21/2006 3:56:55 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: xzins
I am from that area, and my guess is that he WAS harrassed for 5 years by this kid and his family. There are a LOT of ignoramusses there, and it's not just the killer.
To: glorgau
"Just messing up the yards illegals don't want to mess up?"
Good fences make good neighbors.
That was my first thought...however, this is Ohio.
In the three towns where my wife's aunts live, fences are not allowed at all; and any kind of hedge is "unneighborly", and is so resticted in size & set-backs as to be useless.
The concepts of "private property" & "privacy" seemed completely foreign to them also.
48
posted on
03/21/2006 4:01:42 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
To: William Tell
Amen!! The man was likely driven to insanity by this family, and the parents probably NEVER told the punk kid NOT to trespass and harrass. There's a LOT of history that we don't know, and at least prison will feel like a safer place for this man...sounds like he was alone,,,no wife or kids maybe. I feel empathy for him.
Plus this is a very countrified place.
To: TXBubba
There are a WHOLE bunch of nuts running around believing the maniac murderers version of events.
50
posted on
03/21/2006 4:09:05 PM PST
by
Politicalmom
(Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
To: ApplegateRanch
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:10:36 PM PST
by
Politicalmom
(Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
To: beyond the sea
Mom and dad always said to stay off the grass.
not that "grass"...
52
posted on
03/21/2006 4:11:59 PM PST
by
ronnied
(we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
Comment #53 Removed by Moderator
To: deport
Contrary to what others have been posting on this thread, the man doesn't sound like a freak to me. I seldom have sympathy for those who commit murder, but in this case my heart goes out to that man. Apparently he put up with harassment for five years, and then just snapped. (I'd almost be willing to bet that he'd recently had heart or other other medication changed recently. It's amazing the PMS-style symptoms elderly men exhibit while getting adjusted to new medications.)
None of this excuses what he did. But my prayers go out to that man as much as they do to the victim's family. (You know that as a gun-owner, that guy isn't going to get any sympathy or "understanding" from the press.)
54
posted on
03/21/2006 4:18:59 PM PST
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
To: Politicalmom
55
posted on
03/21/2006 4:21:34 PM PST
by
deport
To: Politicalmom
Makes you wonder about folks here doesn't it?
56
posted on
03/21/2006 4:24:25 PM PST
by
TXBubba
( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
To: BenLurkin
Sounds like more than just walking on the lawn. Yeah, I'd say that there was probably some vandalism prior to this...messed with his flags, perhaps.
Doesn't justify shooting the kid, unless he was to break into the house, of course.
When I was growing up, if the neighbor told me to stay off the lawn, I DID! Back then, he could just come out and paddle my behind...then my Dad would do the same when I got home!!
Different times we live in...no one respects others' property.
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:25:31 PM PST
by
ATCNavyRetiree
(I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
To: xzins
Maybe some of this guy's screws weren't as tight as they should have been, but what part of "don't walk on my lawn" don't people understand?
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:31:06 PM PST
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: PLMerite; ATCNavyRetiree
Staying off the lawn is one thing.
Offing offenders with a couple 410 rounds to the chest is an entirely different matter.
Just curiosity on my part, but I wonder what load in had in the rounds?
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:34:18 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
To: xzins
Just curiosity on my part, but I wonder what load in had in the rounds?
A clip I saw this morning on one of the cable networks said he used 410 slugs.... I haven't seen that in any of the print media that I've read.
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:43:52 PM PST
by
deport
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