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PowerLineBlog.COM ^ | 3/21/06 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 03/21/2006 2:23:44 PM PST by Phsstpok

A new batch of Iraqi documents has been released on the Foreign Military Studies Office web site. Only three are in English, so we need some Arabic speakers to take a look at the others.

Only one of the three translated documents appears interesting. It is from Iraqi intelligence, and includes the following order, dated Dec. 2, 2001:

In preparation for any foreign attack (God forbid), be prepared to disperse documents from Headquarters to private residences in various geographic locations.

Which raises three questions: Why was Iraqi intelligence fearful of a "foreign attack" in December 2001? Why was the agency so intent on preventing its documents from being captured by an enemy in the event that Baghdad fell? And, of course, were Iraqi intelligence records in fact dispersed to private residences in 2003, and if so, how many have been recovered?

The same document includes this related instruction, which appears to come from Saddam Hussein himself:

Subject: Details of the Bags

1. First bag
2. Second bag
3. And so on through bag 23. [Correspondence going out and correspondence coming in 1996 through 2002]

Next comes this, which is apparently a description of the last page of the document, rather than a translation:

Final document is the handling message turning over the bags with intelligence correspondence 1996-2002 to apparatus employee Jamal Hadi Majid with his signature witnessed by A'Del Aba's Ali.

What a treasure trove! It sounds as though, on the eve of the March 2003 invasion, the last six years of Iraqi intelligence correspondence was given to a trusted agent for safekeeping. I did a quick Google search and found nothing on Jamal Hadi Majid. Has he been captured, and has the six years worth of correspondence been recovered? Is this the source of many of the documents now being released? Don't know.

Again, one wonders why Iraqi intelligence was so concerned about preventing its files from being captured. This would happen only if Baghdad were taken, in which case such records would seem to be the least of the regime's worries. Or maybe the concern was that the records might be destroyed by bombs; but then, the solution would be to put them in a hardened bunker, of which Iraq had many.

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KEYWORDS: docuemnts; hinderaker; iraq; iraqiintelligence; saddam; wmd
This may well have been posted via other sources, but I intend to make sure that all of us know about this stuff, particularly so that those of us with resources to deliver (in this instance Arabic speakers) can step up and use their immense talents to contribute.

Have at it.

1 posted on 03/21/2006 2:23:48 PM PST by Phsstpok
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To: Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; snugs; ...
Activist Ping

Do any of you have resources to bring to bear on this? Can yout think of anyone else to ping who does?

(this is a subset of my weekend preview PING list - I'm setting up an activists PING list... unless I find a good one that alraedy exists?... if you want on or off this activists ping list please FreepMail me)

2 posted on 03/21/2006 2:27:51 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok; jveritas

jveritas has been doing a GREAT job of translating the documents.


3 posted on 03/21/2006 2:29:49 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Phsstpok; jveritas

I don't know if jveritas is on your ping list so I am taking the liberty.


4 posted on 03/21/2006 2:30:33 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake)
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To: Phsstpok

We have our own translator (jveritas) and we aren't giving him up.


5 posted on 03/21/2006 2:31:59 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Phsstpok

Just out of curiosity, what's the going rate for Arabic or Afghani (Pashtu) translators these days?


6 posted on 03/21/2006 2:32:12 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Phsstpok

"Which raises three questions: Why was Iraqi intelligence fearful of a "foreign attack" in December 2001?"

Um, because Bush was talking about finishing Saddam off then? How soon forgotten.


7 posted on 03/21/2006 2:39:56 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Lizavetta

"Just out of curiosity, what's the going rate for Arabic or Afghani (Pashtu) translators these days?

"

I don't know. Back in the early 70's, I got $1 a word for translating Russian, though. Translations aren't cheap.


8 posted on 03/21/2006 2:49:10 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Bahbah; jveritas
I don't know if jveritas is on your ping list so I am taking the liberty.

I'm modifying my ping list for my "weekend preview thread" to include only folks who I think have indicated an interest in topics  related to activism, which I define as folks who care doing things about stuff that matters.  Your name has come up a couple of times in that regard, particularly linked to anything dealing with information from the Middle East in Arabic. 

Before I add you to my ping list for "activist" issues I'd like to get your take.  So far everything I've thought of pinging people on has been about the ME situation, in one way or another.  Clearly that won't always be the case.  May I add you to my "activists ping list" (a totally personal list, just folks who I think might have an iterest) or would you prefer I limit any pings to things specifically related to that particular part of the world? Or should I leave you alone, entirely? ;^>

9 posted on 03/21/2006 3:10:11 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Lizavetta
Just out of curiosity, what's the going rate for Arabic or Afghani (Pashtu) translators these days?

Not enough, whatever it is. Five times that for reliable folks who will spot check what the other folks are translanting.

10 posted on 03/21/2006 3:12:34 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Lizavetta

High five figures for US citizen with Secret clearance.


11 posted on 03/21/2006 3:23:49 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Phsstpok

Sorry, I only speak English and Jive.
12 posted on 03/21/2006 3:51:28 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: Phsstpok; StillProud2BeFree
Ping
13 posted on 03/21/2006 4:19:47 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

I was offered $80,000 the first year and $120,000 after that to translate Arabic in 2003. I had a TS/SCI in the 90s.

I'm too married, and too out of practice though to take the job and be effective. I am taking Arabic again at the local university (great GPA padding) and I have arabic satellite TV.


14 posted on 03/21/2006 4:25:05 PM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
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To: Phsstpok
Has something changed at the FMSO web site?

When I try to go there, I get a redirect to an ip address of 70.169.163.24 that is unable to be opened.

Is this me, or are others getting the same thing.

And yes I am logged in, my beeber is on stun, and I have just got out of the shower. :)
15 posted on 03/22/2006 2:27:39 PM PST by ParadigmLost (Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors. -- African Proverb)
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To: ParadigmLost

Never mind, they seem to have been updating the web site.

Everybody can stand down now. :)


16 posted on 03/22/2006 2:35:31 PM PST by ParadigmLost (Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors. -- African Proverb)
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To: ParadigmLost
It's working for me:
McClellan Building

Foreign Military Studies Office
Joint Reserve Intelligence Center

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

DNI LOGO

At the request of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the US Army Foreign Military Studies Office has created this portal to provide the general public with access to unclassified documents and media captured during Operation Iraqi Freedom. The US Government has made no determination regarding the authenticity of the documents, validity or factual accuracy of the information contained therein, or the quality of any translations, when available. Users who come across documents they feel are inappropriately released may contact the responsible officers at docex@center.osis.gov. The ODNI press release and public affairs contact information is available at http://www.odni.gov/

FMSO LOGO

All Files

202MI-2003-00000001

Synopsis: N/A

2RAD-2004-M0001926

Synopsis: Propaganda By Iraq TV including dancing and singing with Iraq national songs, praising Saddam Hussein's achievements for Iraq and shouting dreadful words against the United States

BIAP-2003-002059

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-000776

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-001950

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-005793

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-005914

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-008945

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-012666

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-012938

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2003-015213

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2004-000394

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2004-001117

Synopsis: N/A

CMPC-2004-002219

Synopsis: N/A

DOCEX Saddam 030306

Synopsis: N/A

IISP-2003-00026588

Synopsis: N/A

IISP-2003-00026728

Synopsis: N/A

IISP-2003-00027971

Synopsis: N/A

IISP-2003-00031173

Synopsis: N/A

IISP-2003-00038100

Synopsis: Intelligence coded memo by two IIS Officers: O'mer Ghanim Muhammad and Manzar Ibrahim Al Mashhadani containing intelligence information on various topics: Weapon Boat (Ship); Palestinian Muneer Fathi Basiis, Palestinians trained in Iraq, sources, codeetc.

IISP-2003-00044225

Synopsis: N/A

IISP-2003-00046258

Synopsis: N/A

ISGB-2003-00001833

Synopsis: N/A

ISGC-2003-M0005595

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00001498

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00003005

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00007057

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00011423

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00014127

Synopsis: SECRET MEETING WITH TALIBAN GROUP MEMBER AND IRAQI GOVERNMENT

ISGP-2003-00014647

Synopsis: An order from Saddam Hussein to present $25,000 for the suicide bomber families in Palestine

ISGP-2003-00015320

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00015672

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00017230

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00026130

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00028868

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ISGP-2003-00031138

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ISGP-2003-00033345

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ISGP-2003-00034014

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00035064

Synopsis: N/A

ISGP-2003-00035946

Synopsis: Iraqi Military Intelligence, Correspondence letters.

ISGP-2003-00036745

Synopsis: Orders from the Arabic Socialist Ba'ath Party to the General Command of the People's Army

ISGP-2003-10150276

Synopsis: Saddam Hussein's speech urging the Arab people to get rid of their regimes

ISGP-2003-10150277

Synopsis: SADDAM's Hussein Speach criticizing the Arab Leaders

ISGP-2003-10150375

Synopsis: Ba'ath party speech about the cooperation between the government and the people, Meeting of some party and public leaders with Saddam

ISGP-2003-10150376

Synopsis: President Saddam PRACTICING giving a speech for a certain occasion

ISGP-2003-10150388

Synopsis: Saddam Hussein talking to Some Iraqi Officials About the Management Stuff and Songs from Iraqi Folklore

ISGP-2003-10150398

Synopsis: Saddam Hussein's meeting with the Minister of Education concerning the teaching of Holy Quran

ISGP-2003-10150407

Synopsis: Saddam Hussein's speech

ISGP-2003-10150410

Synopsis: Saddam Hussein receiving phone calls and talking about Al-Dur Governorate issues

ISGP-2003-10150413

Synopsis: A Political Speech Recorded by Saddam Hussein Detailing the Great Advancement Day (1995 Election)

ISGP-2003-10150425

Synopsis: President Saddam giving Medals and promotions for Um Al-Maarek of the first class

ISGP-2003-10150426

Synopsis: President Saddam receiving the Religious leaders and sheikhs of Anbar Province

ISGP-2003-10150430

Synopsis: President Saddam receiving the officers and others involved in Al-Fao

ISGP-2003-10150605

Synopsis: Report about the Kurdish situation read by Iraqi officers in the presence of Saddam Hussein

ISGP-2003-10150749

Synopsis: Islamic Conference Held In Iraq During The War Between Iran And Iraq

ISGP-2003-10150751

Synopsis: This file is an audio tape that contains details a session of the Islamic People's Conference; it is attended by Arab Scholars and Saddam Hussein talking about Iraq-Iran War

ISGP-2003-10150753

Synopsis: Speeches Of Religious Scholars During The Iraqi Iranian War

ISGP-2003-10150755

Synopsis: Islamic Conference about ending the Iraqi Iranian War

ISGP-2003-10150756

Synopsis: This file is an audio tape that details a session of the Islamic People's Conference; it is attended by Arab Scholars and Saddam Hussein talking about Iraq-Iran War

ISGP-2003-10150794

Synopsis: Conference of Arab Scholars for Supporting Saddam During the Iraqi-Iranian War

ISGP-2003-10150809

Synopsis: Islamic Conference Concerning The Iranian And Iraqi War

ISGP-2003-10151316

Synopsis: A Meeting Of The Revolutionary Command Council; Saddam Discussing Methods Of Developing Agriculture In Iraq

ISGP-2003-10151317

Synopsis: Saddam talks to the Egyptian workers, to inquire about their concerns in Iraq

ISGP-2003-10151321

Synopsis: A Revolutionary Command Council Meeting Chaired By the Deposed Iraqi President Saddam Hussein

ISGP-2003-10151326

Synopsis: Saddam's speech talking about incidents that he faces in his meetings

ISGP-2003-10151329

Synopsis: Speaker explains to Saddam about foreign workers wages verses the Iraqi's wages, and other topics

ISGP-2003-10151331

Synopsis: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and Iraqi officials discussing the ways of improving the Iraqi cinema

ISGP-2003-10151333

Synopsis: A speech by Saddam Hussein about the agriculture in Iraq

ISGP-2003-10151514

Synopsis: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and members from the Arab League

ISGP-2003-10151519

Synopsis: This tape contains a meeting between Saddam Hussein and the Arab Labor Union

ISGP-2003-10151520

Synopsis: Interviews of Saddam Hussein with some Turkish journalists

ISGP-2003-10151521

Synopsis: Saddam Hussein meeting with the Council of Minsters

Other released documents can be found at http://www.ctc.usma.edu/harmony_docs.asp

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17 posted on 03/22/2006 3:45:16 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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