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| 3/21/06
| John Hinderaker
Posted on 03/21/2006 2:23:44 PM PST by Phsstpok
A new batch of Iraqi documents has been released on the Foreign Military Studies Office web site. Only three are in English, so we need some Arabic speakers to take a look at the others.
Only one of the three translated documents appears interesting. It is from Iraqi intelligence, and includes the following order, dated Dec. 2, 2001:
In preparation for any foreign attack (God forbid), be prepared to disperse documents from Headquarters to private residences in various geographic locations.
Which raises three questions: Why was Iraqi intelligence fearful of a "foreign attack" in December 2001? Why was the agency so intent on preventing its documents from being captured by an enemy in the event that Baghdad fell? And, of course, were Iraqi intelligence records in fact dispersed to private residences in 2003, and if so, how many have been recovered?
The same document includes this related instruction, which appears to come from Saddam Hussein himself:
Subject: Details of the Bags 1. First bag
2. Second bag
3. And so on through bag 23. [Correspondence going out and correspondence coming in 1996 through 2002]
Next comes this, which is apparently a description of the last page of the document, rather than a translation:
Final document is the handling message turning over the bags with intelligence correspondence 1996-2002 to apparatus employee Jamal Hadi Majid with his signature witnessed by A'Del Aba's Ali.
What a treasure trove! It sounds as though, on the eve of the March 2003 invasion, the last six years of Iraqi intelligence correspondence was given to a trusted agent for safekeeping. I did a quick Google search and found nothing on Jamal Hadi Majid. Has he been captured, and has the six years worth of correspondence been recovered? Is this the source of many of the documents now being released? Don't know.
Again, one wonders why Iraqi intelligence was so concerned about preventing its files from being captured. This would happen only if Baghdad were taken, in which case such records would seem to be the least of the regime's worries. Or maybe the concern was that the records might be destroyed by bombs; but then, the solution would be to put them in a hardened bunker, of which Iraq had many.
Posted by John at 02:40 PM |
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: docuemnts; hinderaker; iraq; iraqiintelligence; saddam; wmd
This may well have been posted via other sources, but I intend to make sure that all of us know about this stuff, particularly so that those of us with resources to deliver (in this instance Arabic speakers) can step up and use their immense talents to contribute.
Have at it.
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:23:48 PM PST
by
Phsstpok
To: Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; snugs; ...
Activist Ping
Do any of you have resources to bring to bear on this? Can yout think of anyone else to ping who does?
(this is a subset of my weekend preview PING list - I'm setting up an activists PING list... unless I find a good one that alraedy exists?... if you want on or off this activists ping list please FreepMail me)
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:27:51 PM PST
by
Phsstpok
(There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
To: Phsstpok; jveritas
jveritas has been doing a GREAT job of translating the documents.
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:29:49 PM PST
by
Txsleuth
(Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
To: Phsstpok; jveritas
I don't know if jveritas is on your ping list so I am taking the liberty.
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:30:33 PM PST
by
Bahbah
(An admitted Snow Flake)
To: Phsstpok
We have our own translator (jveritas) and we aren't giving him up.
To: Phsstpok
Just out of curiosity, what's the going rate for Arabic or Afghani (Pashtu) translators these days?
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:32:12 PM PST
by
Lizavetta
To: Phsstpok
"Which raises three questions: Why was Iraqi intelligence fearful of a "foreign attack" in December 2001?"
Um, because Bush was talking about finishing Saddam off then? How soon forgotten.
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:39:56 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Lizavetta
"Just out of curiosity, what's the going rate for Arabic or Afghani (Pashtu) translators these days?
"
I don't know. Back in the early 70's, I got $1 a word for translating Russian, though. Translations aren't cheap.
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posted on
03/21/2006 2:49:10 PM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: Bahbah; jveritas
I don't know if jveritas is on your ping list so I am taking the liberty.I'm modifying my ping list for my "weekend preview thread" to include only folks who I think have indicated an interest in topics related to activism, which I define as folks who care doing things about stuff that matters. Your name has come up a couple of times in that regard, particularly linked to anything dealing with information from the Middle East in Arabic.
Before I add you to my ping list for "activist" issues I'd like to get your take. So far everything I've thought of pinging people on has been about the ME situation, in one way or another. Clearly that won't always be the case. May I add you to my "activists ping list" (a totally personal list, just folks who I think might have an iterest) or would you prefer I limit any pings to things specifically related to that particular part of the world? Or should I leave you alone, entirely? ;^>
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:10:11 PM PST
by
Phsstpok
(There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
To: Lizavetta
Just out of curiosity, what's the going rate for Arabic or Afghani (Pashtu) translators these days?Not enough, whatever it is. Five times that for reliable folks who will spot check what the other folks are translanting.
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:12:34 PM PST
by
Phsstpok
(There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
To: Lizavetta
High five figures for US citizen with Secret clearance.
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:23:49 PM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
To: Phsstpok
Sorry, I only speak English and Jive.
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posted on
03/21/2006 3:51:28 PM PST
by
LibertarianInExile
(Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
To: Phsstpok; StillProud2BeFree
Ping
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:19:47 PM PST
by
Myrddin
To: Cannoneer No. 4
I was offered $80,000 the first year and $120,000 after that to translate Arabic in 2003. I had a TS/SCI in the 90s.
I'm too married, and too out of practice though to take the job and be effective. I am taking Arabic again at the local university (great GPA padding) and I have arabic satellite TV.
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posted on
03/21/2006 4:25:05 PM PST
by
xusafflyer
(Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
To: Phsstpok
Has something changed at the FMSO web site?
When I try to go there, I get a redirect to an ip address of 70.169.163.24 that is unable to be opened.
Is this me, or are others getting the same thing.
And yes I am logged in, my beeber is on stun, and I have just got out of the shower. :)
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posted on
03/22/2006 2:27:39 PM PST
by
ParadigmLost
(Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors. -- African Proverb)
To: ParadigmLost
Never mind, they seem to have been updating the web site.
Everybody can stand down now. :)
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posted on
03/22/2006 2:35:31 PM PST
by
ParadigmLost
(Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors. -- African Proverb)
To: ParadigmLost
It's working for me:
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All Files
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202MI-2003-00000001
Synopsis: N/A
2RAD-2004-M0001926
Synopsis: Propaganda By Iraq TV including dancing and singing with Iraq national songs, praising Saddam Hussein's achievements for Iraq and shouting dreadful words against the United States
BIAP-2003-002059
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-000776
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-001950
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-005793
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-005914
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-008945
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-012666
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-012938
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2003-015213
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2004-000394
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2004-001117
Synopsis: N/A
CMPC-2004-002219
Synopsis: N/A
DOCEX Saddam 030306
Synopsis: N/A
IISP-2003-00026588
Synopsis: N/A
IISP-2003-00026728
Synopsis: N/A
IISP-2003-00027971
Synopsis: N/A
IISP-2003-00031173
Synopsis: N/A
IISP-2003-00038100
Synopsis: Intelligence coded memo by two IIS Officers: O'mer Ghanim Muhammad and Manzar Ibrahim Al Mashhadani containing intelligence information on various topics: Weapon Boat (Ship); Palestinian Muneer Fathi Basiis, Palestinians trained in Iraq, sources, codeetc.
IISP-2003-00044225
Synopsis: N/A
IISP-2003-00046258
Synopsis: N/A
ISGB-2003-00001833
Synopsis: N/A
ISGC-2003-M0005595
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00001498
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00003005
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00007057
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00011423
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00014127
Synopsis: SECRET MEETING WITH TALIBAN GROUP MEMBER AND IRAQI GOVERNMENT
ISGP-2003-00014647
Synopsis: An order from Saddam Hussein to present $25,000 for the suicide bomber families in Palestine
ISGP-2003-00015320
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00015672
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00017230
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00026130
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00028868
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00031138
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00033345
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00034014
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00035064
Synopsis: N/A
ISGP-2003-00035946
Synopsis: Iraqi Military Intelligence, Correspondence letters.
ISGP-2003-00036745
Synopsis: Orders from the Arabic Socialist Ba'ath Party to the General Command of the People's Army
ISGP-2003-10150276
Synopsis: Saddam Hussein's speech urging the Arab people to get rid of their regimes
ISGP-2003-10150277
Synopsis: SADDAM's Hussein Speach criticizing the Arab Leaders
ISGP-2003-10150375
Synopsis: Ba'ath party speech about the cooperation between the government and the people, Meeting of some party and public leaders with Saddam
ISGP-2003-10150376
Synopsis: President Saddam PRACTICING giving a speech for a certain occasion
ISGP-2003-10150388
Synopsis: Saddam Hussein talking to Some Iraqi Officials About the Management Stuff and Songs from Iraqi Folklore
ISGP-2003-10150398
Synopsis: Saddam Hussein's meeting with the Minister of Education concerning the teaching of Holy Quran
ISGP-2003-10150407
Synopsis: Saddam Hussein's speech
ISGP-2003-10150410
Synopsis: Saddam Hussein receiving phone calls and talking about Al-Dur Governorate issues
ISGP-2003-10150413
Synopsis: A Political Speech Recorded by Saddam Hussein Detailing the Great Advancement Day (1995 Election)
ISGP-2003-10150425
Synopsis: President Saddam giving Medals and promotions for Um Al-Maarek of the first class
ISGP-2003-10150426
Synopsis: President Saddam receiving the Religious leaders and sheikhs of Anbar Province
ISGP-2003-10150430
Synopsis: President Saddam receiving the officers and others involved in Al-Fao
ISGP-2003-10150605
Synopsis: Report about the Kurdish situation read by Iraqi officers in the presence of Saddam Hussein
ISGP-2003-10150749
Synopsis: Islamic Conference Held In Iraq During The War Between Iran And Iraq
ISGP-2003-10150751
Synopsis: This file is an audio tape that contains details a session of the Islamic People's Conference; it is attended by Arab Scholars and Saddam Hussein talking about Iraq-Iran War
ISGP-2003-10150753
Synopsis: Speeches Of Religious Scholars During The Iraqi Iranian War
ISGP-2003-10150755
Synopsis: Islamic Conference about ending the Iraqi Iranian War
ISGP-2003-10150756
Synopsis: This file is an audio tape that details a session of the Islamic People's Conference; it is attended by Arab Scholars and Saddam Hussein talking about Iraq-Iran War
ISGP-2003-10150794
Synopsis: Conference of Arab Scholars for Supporting Saddam During the Iraqi-Iranian War
ISGP-2003-10150809
Synopsis: Islamic Conference Concerning The Iranian And Iraqi War
ISGP-2003-10151316
Synopsis: A Meeting Of The Revolutionary Command Council; Saddam Discussing Methods Of Developing Agriculture In Iraq
ISGP-2003-10151317
Synopsis: Saddam talks to the Egyptian workers, to inquire about their concerns in Iraq
ISGP-2003-10151321
Synopsis: A Revolutionary Command Council Meeting Chaired By the Deposed Iraqi President Saddam Hussein
ISGP-2003-10151326
Synopsis: Saddam's speech talking about incidents that he faces in his meetings
ISGP-2003-10151329
Synopsis: Speaker explains to Saddam about foreign workers wages verses the Iraqi's wages, and other topics
ISGP-2003-10151331
Synopsis: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and Iraqi officials discussing the ways of improving the Iraqi cinema
ISGP-2003-10151333
Synopsis: A speech by Saddam Hussein about the agriculture in Iraq
ISGP-2003-10151514
Synopsis: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and members from the Arab League
ISGP-2003-10151519
Synopsis: This tape contains a meeting between Saddam Hussein and the Arab Labor Union
ISGP-2003-10151520
Synopsis: Interviews of Saddam Hussein with some Turkish journalists
ISGP-2003-10151521
Synopsis: Saddam Hussein meeting with the Council of Minsters
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posted on
03/22/2006 3:45:16 PM PST
by
Phsstpok
(There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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