I think I'll petition to establish a satanic enclave filled with gorgeous women to pleasure me and do my evil biddings.
A step backward into barbarism and the abyss.
Only one ambition is worthy of Islam, to save the world from the curse of democracy: to teach men that they cannot rule themselves on the basis of man-made laws. Mankind has strayed from the path of God, we must return to that path or face certain annihilation.
President Bush and Condi...pick up the white courtesy phone please!!
There was a recent court decision that said that homeowner associations and the like are essentially players in the constitutional game, and therefore can't restrict the rights of the members. I looked for the article, but can't find it. It was about putting political signs on the front lawn.
To allow these is the first step onto a slippery slope that will lead to the total demise of America as we now know it....
IF they want an "enclave", lets deal with them in the same manner as the Aussies did: "Move to Saudi Arabia".
If they don't like American Democracy/Law, they can go back to their 3rd. world hell hole, and take their POS religion with them.
Maybe they're following the lead of the Catholics who wanted to form their own 'enclave' in Florida. I'm not so sure any of this is good for America.
Danger! Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
Until we decide to deal with a the theocracy as a political invasion, we are in deep trouble.
The Amish are not exempt from the laws of the constitution and neither can any muslim enclave be. Therefore the uncivilized parts of sharia law cannot be implemented.
No stonings, No honor killings, No rapes, No death for conversion to another faith, No, No, NO...
--United States Constitution, Article VI, Paragraph 2
That ends that little debate.
We really must facilitate their departure. They are colonists of an alien "culture" that is inferior to Western civilization. All the talk about "radical" islam being the problem is BS. Islam in any civilized nation is not only a problem, but a danger.
If allowed to continue, there will be much more blood on the streets of America than on 9/11...
Ping
My understanding is that there is no legal way for a citizen in good standing to lose or give up their Constitutional rights, regardless of any agreement he may sign with another party. Conversely, I don't think there is a Constitutional requirement forcing him to exercise those rights either. In other words, people can probably live according to fundamentalist religious laws if they so desire, to the extent that those laws do not require violation of state or federal laws, but they are free to stop doing it any time they please.
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of Orthodox and Roman Catholic monasteries around the country that have internal rules for monks/sisters that would never past muster if litigated in secular courts. Presumably canon law applies, and given the 1st Amendment protections, probably a lot could happen that the secular law would sanction without anyone being the wiser.
On the other hand, these outfits do not have a long history of using their facilities as concentration points for planning catastrophic attacks on their non-believing neighbors, nor holy books that require them to do so on pain of eternal damnation when their religious leader declares holy war.
I'm guessing NO WAY! This would absolutely run right into the "equal protection of the laws " clause of the XIV Amendment.
WE need to remember that the American colonies were largely founded by people seeking to establish religious communities free of the influence of state religious monopolies. For many years, that was a bedrock American value. However, in the last 50 years, secular liberalism has greatly diminished the right of people - particularly religious people - to found what are sometimes called "intentional communities," i.e., communities founded by people who want to create a community of like-minded people. So in this case, I think the Muslims are very much in an American tradition. What we cannot, allow, however, is to let them extend ANY authority over non-Muslims.
It's hard to see how you could clamp down exclusively on one sort without interfering with others - whatever one first supposes to be uniquely disturbing about Radical Islam has it's counterpart.
We have groups that deny the legitimacy of secular law and deny the authority of the US government, groups that hope to impose the laws of their religion on everyone else, groups that have been associated with perpetrators of terrorist attacks, and so on - just about any sort of behavior we decry in "Islamic" enclaves has its counterpart in "American as Apple Pie" extremism that we find it more convent to tolerate than to suppress.
IMO If we are really worried about Islamic enclaves we might better spend some time trying to understand why Islam is increasingly attractive to Black and Hispanic Americans and attempt to subvert that appeal.
Looks like we're gonna have to have a constitutional convention to declare islam to be an illegal, immoral, violent, racist cult, & is banned in all forms in the USA, as are its followers.
Along with this, our Christian & Jewish leaders need to declare islam a satanic cult, & take the lead in vilifying muslims as followers of satan. muslims should be shunned, ignored, & ostracized.
Our "leaders", left & right, are too busy sucking up to the muzzies to see the threat to our freedom, & will NEVER do anything to halt the spread of this evil.
Can some of you legal scholars out their explain how/why there is no Nazi party in the US? Is it an illegal org., & if so, how can we do the same to islam?
Here at FR, I'd like to see the Spell Checker drop the idea that words such as islam & muslim should be capitalized. This would be but a small way of showing our disdain & disgust.