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U.S. judge is asked to order housing for poor in suburbs
Baltimore Sun ^ | March 21, 2006 | Eric Siegel

Posted on 03/21/2006 3:38:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Lawyers for Baltimore public housing residents are asking a federal judge to order the creation of 3,000 new low-income housing units and an additional 3,750 housing vouchers, mostly in well-off suburban neighborhoods with good schools and access to jobs.

The request comes 14 months after the judge found that the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development violated fair housing laws by failing to take a regional approach to the desegregation of city public housing.

It asks the federal agency to provide tenants with 675 new "housing opportunities a year over the next decade to reduce the effects of decades of discriminatory actions."

Whether the judge accepts the proposal or crafts his own solution to the discrimination he has found, the case highlights one of the Baltimore region's most vexing and contentious issues - how to dilute the concentration of poverty in the city.

The proposed order is drawing opposition and skepticism from Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley and some suburban leaders, and it is being vigorously contested by lawyers for HUD, who say it is "entirely uncalled for" and "simply not practical."

............"Baltimore's African-American public housing residents have virtually no opportunity to live in white, suburban neighborhoods with better opportunities for themselves and their children for education, employment, safety and recreation," they wrote. "Only through such a remedy can African-American public housing residents in Baltimore overcome the harms suffered through decades of government-sanctioned discrimination."

But lawyers for HUD counter that the "prospect of implementing those recommendations and having them work is, at best, dubious."

"Testimony from HUD program officials will demonstrate how difficult, disruptive and counter-productive the sort of remedy that plaintiffs will likely seek would be," they wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: desegregation; discrimination; housing; hud; innercity; poverty; publichousing; welfare
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sure makes me want to move to Md. buy a house, open a business and pay for this kind of crap.
As ususal, good post Cincinatus' wife.


21 posted on 03/21/2006 4:05:11 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Always Right

Why do you think Moslems have multple wives? It's a way to milk the "system". Multiple wives (with only one being "legally" recognized) means multiple AFDC checks, multiple Social Security checks and health care paid by Medicaid. Of course, the Gubmint looks the other way, since everybody knows it's a "Religion of Peace". We're paying them to breed like rabbits.
Disgusting.
Read Debbie Schussel for more on this type of activity in Detroit.


22 posted on 03/21/2006 4:05:59 AM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: IrishMike

O'malley knows his meal ticket is on both sides of the track,he will lose so many of the(not in my backyard) liberals in the surrounding communities, even with 90% of the black votes, will it not help him win the state.


23 posted on 03/21/2006 4:08:14 AM PST by dubyawhoiluv
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To: Mark was here; Always Right
I had a discussion with a black woman who runs a used bookstore in Silver Spring. They've been revitalizing that downtown area.

Anyway, she started to draw me into a political debate about the war on terror after I'd remarked that we had been attacked while she was bad mouthing Bush to some other shoppers in the aisle I was browsing.

She felt it was awful that people in this neighborhood couldn't find work - some had been looking for a year or longer. To which I replied, then they should move and go to where they can find work - as we had just moved to the Balt-Wash area for that very reason.

She looked at me like I was insane. She said these people couldn't do that and that the government (largest employer in this area) could give these people jobs.

So you see, the government needs to provide in one fashion or another in some people's thinking.
24 posted on 03/21/2006 4:08:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Steele can campaign on this issue. If he gets on the right side of this, it will help him a lot in the suburbs.


25 posted on 03/21/2006 4:08:29 AM PST by bondjamesbond (RICE '08)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Baltimore's African-American public housing residents have virtually no opportunity to live in white, suburban neighborhoods with better opportunities for themselves and their children for education, employment, safety and recreation,"

Yes they do have the opportunity, it's called a pre-approval from a mortgage lender and purchase agreement for a home.

I don't ask someones race when I pre-approve them(until the end when we answer the govt mandated ?'s); they can call me and we will start the process.

I can do lending in Baltimore.


26 posted on 03/21/2006 4:14:09 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: PeteB570
Hey, if a person wants to live in my neighborhood let them get a job and earn the money to buy a house. Thats what I did.

That's the story in my neighborhood. We are pretty much a cross section now, some of everything. In talking about this with one Black neighbor, the saying emerged, "There is ONE color in this country: GREEN."

If someone earns enough "Green", they can live anywhere they want. He works hard, and brought up three really good kids. He moved out from the city decades ago, and refers to his former neighbors, who still huddle there and collect, as (The Collective Noun We Cannot Use.).

27 posted on 03/21/2006 4:15:39 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: bondjamesbond; Joe Boucher
It screams of the soft bigotry of low expectations - what the Left is so famous and reviled for. At least they should be.

LIBERAL groups milk the remnants of the welfare state because their future political viability depends on nurturing "victims."
28 posted on 03/21/2006 4:20:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And I thought that the legislature was tasked with making laws and spending money. Silly me.

5.56mm

29 posted on 03/21/2006 4:20:49 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This has already been done. See what happened to Houston when, 150,000 Katrina refugees were put into middle-class neighborhoods. Total Chaos?
30 posted on 03/21/2006 4:23:36 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can't afford to move into the DC suburb of Mitchellville, a mostly black enclave of much nicer homes than I have now. Should I sue?


31 posted on 03/21/2006 4:26:23 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Fury
The way the person who said that paragraph thinks, you'd think there were "opportunity trees" growing in the white neighborhood that all you have to do is pick.

Yes, and $50 bills come out of the faucets from time to time.

32 posted on 03/21/2006 4:28:07 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The left can't stand the fact that many sensible people have fled the inner cities to live in peace with their neighbors without the fear of being raped, robbed or killed and their children harassed because of their skin color.
The left wants to move the people who rape rob and kill into the peaceful neighborhoods.
The left wants everyone to live at the same miserable level - if you have, they want to take from you, if you don't have, they give you what they took from the haves.


33 posted on 03/21/2006 4:29:34 AM PST by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

ME! ME! ME!

I want to be a poverty pimp! I want the cash for being stooopid enough to be poor in a country that gives you every opportunity to be rich!


34 posted on 03/21/2006 4:32:18 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Of course when the market value drops in those neighborhoods, so will the tax revenues to the city.


35 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:40 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
The left wants everyone to live at the same miserable level - if you have, they want to take from you, if you don't have, they give you what they took from the haves.

That's communism and it's failed everywhere it's been tried. Under communism, self-enrichment is a crime - accept of course if you're the one keeping the masses in line.

36 posted on 03/21/2006 4:36:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mtbopfuyn
Of course when the market value drops in those neighborhoods, so will the tax revenues to the city.

I imagine someone has their eye on the inner city property ripe for redevelopment, at the right government subsidized price of course.

37 posted on 03/21/2006 4:38:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If only I could live next door to someone rich and white, all my pathologies would go away.


38 posted on 03/21/2006 4:45:12 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: dakine
I hadn't thought about the Busboys in a while. Good group.
39 posted on 03/21/2006 4:50:00 AM PST by TankerKC (Pull your head out.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife


Eventually they will have to accept that the problems in the Black community come from the Black community. No matter where you put them the same problems will arise.


40 posted on 03/21/2006 4:53:50 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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