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TEEN MOWED DOWN (SHOT) OVER LAWN Just killed a kid, man tells 911
The Winnipeg Sun ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 1:38:11 AM PST by beaversmom

BATAVIA, Ohio -- A man who neighbours say was devoted to his meticulously kept lawn is charged with murder in the shooting of a 15-year-old boy who apparently walked across his yard.

Charles Martin, 66, of Union Township, near this city about 30 kilometres east of Cincinnati, shot next-door neighbour Larry Mugrage in the chest with a shotgun about 3:30 p.m. Sunday, police said. The youth was pronounced dead at hospital.

Martin was being held without bond yesterday in Clermont County Jail. Police said he told them he had several disputes about neighbours walking on his lawn. But Union Township police Lieut. Scott Gaviglia said Martin had no criminal history and last called police in 2003.

Martin called 911 on Sunday, saying in a calm voice: "I just killed a kid."

He also tells the dispatcher: "It's been going on for five years ... I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years. Today just blew it up."

STUNS NEIGHBOURHOOD

The deadly shooting stunned those in the neighbourhood and students at Glen Este High School, where Martin was a freshman, and grief counsellors were on hand yesterday.

"I think there's a great deal of shock, for two reasons: because of the age of the victim and just how this occurred, killed over some grass," Gaviglia said.

Neighbours said Martin lived alone quietly, often sitting out in front of his one-storey home with its neat lawn, well-trimmed shrubbery and flag pole with U.S. and navy flags flying.

In his fenced backyard, he had several birdhouses and a shed painted like a small red barn with white trim.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; charlesmartin; cinncinnati; emergency911; goingpostal; larrymugrage; lawncare; martin; mugrage; oh; ohio; rkba; secondamendment; teen; teenager
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To: BruceysMom
Have you checked the seat of your pants yet today? Clean underwear?

If the old geezer had gotten to a psychiatrist and was taking his meds the kid might be alive.

81 posted on 03/21/2006 4:22:21 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: beaversmom

I think it's safe to say that his a$$ is grass.


82 posted on 03/21/2006 4:22:36 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: durasell

LOL!


83 posted on 03/21/2006 4:23:12 AM PST by rabidralph (We don't need no fancy book learnin,' now, get off the property!)
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To: mc6809e
He [the lawn owner] has no outs.

I can think of one right of the top of my head, AUTOMATIC LAWN SPRINKLERS. The kind that are set of by motion detectors.

84 posted on 03/21/2006 4:24:02 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: beaversmom

The next time you hear an old guy say "Hey you kids, get offa my lawn!" remember that he MEANS it.


85 posted on 03/21/2006 4:25:04 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Shalom Israel

--all neatly trimmed with wood to look like a plain old mailbox...


I recall exactly such a story and as I recall the homeowner was sued or jailed for some kind of dangerous overkill, believe it or not.


86 posted on 03/21/2006 4:26:53 AM PST by TalBlack (I WON'T suffer the journalizing or editorializing of people who are afraid of the enemies of freedom)
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To: BruceysMom
...you are a moron. I have OCD and I take medication.

I'm with you. I did think there was one valid point hiding in all his offensive characterizations, though: it's entirely possible that this guy was in fact obsessive over his lawn, so what the neighbors thought was just "having fun with that cranky old coot" might have been perceived as a life-and-death struggle on his end.

Which underscores the moral, pointed out several times on this thread: don't go around provoking people for the fun of it. You never know which one is loaded and cocked, with the safety off.

87 posted on 03/21/2006 4:27:18 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Actually, it's all done with mirrors.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Also, from the story, it appears he shot the boy in the chest. That indicates something other than the man threatening the boy and the boy running away. If the truth were known, the boy and man were facing each other and were competing for "Most Disparaging Comment" awards at the time of the shooting. I've seen teens like that. More needs to be brought out about this for everyone's benefit.

Good point.

I wonder if the kid's last words were "What are you going to do, shoot me!?!"

88 posted on 03/21/2006 4:27:33 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: SLB

I'm not flaming you--you're right. If this had gone to court as a simple case of harassing behavior by the kid, the media would have laughed at the old guy as intolerant, ultraconservative, mean-spirited, etc. After the trial, every punk in town would be walking across the guy's lawn.


89 posted on 03/21/2006 4:28:52 AM PST by rabidralph (We don't need no fancy book learnin,' now, get off the property!)
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To: TalBlack
I recall exactly such a story and as I recall the homeowner was sued or jailed for some kind of dangerous overkill, believe it or not.

Wow, that's unbelievable. But sadly, it's believable after all. I still treasure the mental image of a hot-shot hick wrapping his pickup around my mailbox...

90 posted on 03/21/2006 4:29:15 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Actually, it's all done with mirrors.)
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To: rabidralph

...the media would have laughed at the old guy as intolerant, ultraconservative, mean-spirited, etc.



Yes, now the entire world is laughing at him as an "out of his mind, raving lunatic murderous wacko." That's soo much better.


92 posted on 03/21/2006 4:31:01 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Again your ignorance is breath taking. Few who have OCD ever see or need psychiatric care it is a physical disorder. Just as diabetics may appear to have mental problems,once their body chemistry is in control they are fine. Your lack of intellect is showing and my underwear is none of your business . I'm sure your undergarments are clean as you seem to be storing your bodily waste in an entirely different orifice.
93 posted on 03/21/2006 4:31:18 AM PST by BruceysMom (I'm hot & not in a good way: menopause ain't for sissies)
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To: Shalom Israel

I think it was Upstate NY. After a rash of mailbox driveovers some homeowner put in a mailbox that could stop a car. It did. The trial I remember may have been the lawsuite. I don't recall who won. I side with the home owner.


94 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:29 AM PST by TalBlack (I WON'T suffer the journalizing or editorializing of people who are afraid of the enemies of freedom)
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To: OXENinFLA
I can think of one right of the top of my head, AUTOMATIC LAWN SPRINKLERS. The kind that are set of by motion detectors.

I like the way you think!

Another of my someday-projects is to build a phased array of motion sensors and a microcontroller that will point a spotlight at whoever's in the yard, and follow them around. IF that works well, the next two enhancements will be: multiple spotlights for up to three bogeys; and replacing the spotlight with a laser pointer.

And oh yeah--setting up a webcam to capture the fun.

95 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:32 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Actually, it's all done with mirrors.)
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To: maggief
Martin: I shot him with a 410 shotgun twice.

Twice?

96 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:37 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: beaversmom

Being originally from Ohio, i can tell ya that many people in Ohio take their lawns WAY too seriously.


97 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:48 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Don't deliberately provoke people you know are crazy.

Don't deliberately provoke anyone - They might be having a bad day, be crazy or all of the above. Goading people is always dangerous - something that this kid found out too late unfortunately.

98 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:58 AM PST by from occupied ga (Peace through superior firepower)
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To: Shalom Israel

They actually sell those for theater. I don't recall if the person tracked by the light needs to have a special device, but I don't think so.


99 posted on 03/21/2006 4:35:38 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: beaversmom
That's what the kid gets for ignoring the KEEP OFF THE GRASS" sign! (/sarcasm)
100 posted on 03/21/2006 4:38:57 AM PST by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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