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Call me crazy, but there is something fishy here. Barrels falling off? Even Smith and Wesson is better than that.

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 03/19/2006 8:10:55 AM PST by Copernicus
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Considering that the vast majority of agencies transitioned to the semiauto pistol in the 80s and 90s, one wonders just how old these revolvers are.

If its like one agency I'm aware of, they may be over 80 years old - someone found a crate of revolvers in the armory and discovered that they were old Peacemakers - still carried on the books as ready-to-issue.


2 posted on 03/19/2006 8:15:13 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Considerable discussion of this at the S&W Forum. Looks like a possible metallurgical problem to me. It happens. There was a batch of 624's that had cylinder problems.

3 posted on 03/19/2006 8:16:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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I don't believe a word of this article.


6 posted on 03/19/2006 8:21:52 AM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To the anti-gun nuts: This is what a "defective product" in the firearms industry is.


18 posted on 03/19/2006 8:44:46 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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I've got a model 586 .357 magnum that I've owned for about 15 years. It's been very reliable. I sure hope that continues.


27 posted on 03/19/2006 8:59:46 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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"On the one hand, statistically (the revolvers' performance) is not bad, but it's just the safety issue," Stieneke said. "That kind of failure gets people's attention."

Duh!! It's like saying that only a low percentage of aircraft parts are bad and have caused mishaps. A gun is something that you have to count on to work reliably. It HAS to work every time or the consequences could be fatal to you. If some crackhead rapes and kills me and my family because my gun wouldn't fire, my surviving relatives aren't going to sit there saying, "Gee, the gun had a very low statistical rate of failure, so this is really just a PR problem."

32 posted on 03/19/2006 9:07:34 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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Should have done what 90% of the other agencies do and purchased Glocks.


49 posted on 03/19/2006 9:30:20 AM PST by Scutter
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Call me crazy, but there is something fishy here. Barrels falling off? Even Smith and Wesson is better than that.

When I read N.C. law enforcement and barrels breaking off only one image popped into my mind....


58 posted on 03/19/2006 9:49:14 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Buy Ruger, they have NEVER been a member of the "Gun Grabber" lobby like S and W have been!


60 posted on 03/19/2006 9:50:20 AM PST by zzen01
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"Oh my darling," she said as she reloaded. "I've missed you."

"No, dear. Your barrel--"


62 posted on 03/19/2006 9:51:55 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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How come they don't issue L frame revolvers? Then LEOs would have options on what cartridge they load.


66 posted on 03/19/2006 9:57:49 AM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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None of the revolvers have failed in the line of duty, and for now, the department is keeping the guns in service. But in testing, about one in four revolvers didn't fire when the trigger was pulled. In some cases, the barrel of some models broke off when the gun was fired.

How often do probation and corrections officers fire their weapon in the line of duty? One in four failures would be enough to make me carry my own weapon just in case I did have to use it. It surely isn’t saying much for Smith & Wesson.
141 posted on 03/19/2006 3:24:37 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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...The guns cost about $320 each, meaning it would cost the state more than $1.5 million to replace them all. That doesn't include the cost of buying new ammunition, holsters and other accessories, plus retraining officers to use a new model of gun....

I guess that means they have about 4,687 of these things.

Here's another interesting quote from the article.

...None of the revolvers have failed in the line of duty, and for now, the department is keeping the guns in service. But in testing, about one in four revolvers didn't fire when the trigger was pulled. In some cases, the barrel of some models broke off when the gun was fired....

I find it hard to believe that one in four of these guns wouldn't fire when the trigger was pulled.

"In some cases, the barrel of some models broke off when the gun was fired."

Which models? I thought they were talking about one gun here.

I have to wonder even how many barrels actually broke off in this test. Highly unusual? I would think so.

They just want some new guns.


153 posted on 03/19/2006 7:19:48 PM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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I have had S&W revolvers for years, but now my model 66 cylinder locked. It appears that the ejector rod unscrewed itself enough to do it. I will have to get a gunsmith to look at it.


168 posted on 10/24/2006 6:02:36 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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