[SmithL]

It would be easy enough to blow off these overpaid, anti-semitic fools in their ivory towers, except for the fact that they're indoctrinating our children.

[Slings and Arrows]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mearsheimer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_M._Walt (see also http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=509251 )

To my lack-of-surprise, both these turkeys opposed the War in Iraq. Someone needs to check where these "scholars" are getting their dollars from.

[Fee]

The Jewish composition in the student body many ivy league colleges is quite high compared to their population overall in the US. Unfortunately many of them possess anti-Israel/US ideologies themselves to their own detriment and to Israel their only santuary in the world if the US (God forbid) becomes an anti-Jewish nation. Look at the names of many of the white leftist/anti US/Israel professors. Many of them are of Jewish descent. I do see one hope. Many American Jewish students are from liberal families, and they expected anti-Sematics would be white rightwing Christians. On the campuses they see anti-Sematism being expoused by black liberal professors and being silently supported by white liberal professors. To their surprise they see white Conservative Christian students protest the anti-Sematic remarks.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Somewhere warm and sunny, Larry Summers in smiling.

[Diago]

bump for later

[jaime1959]

> It would be easy enough to blow off these overpaid, anti-semitic fools in their ivory towers, except for the fact that they're indoctrinating our children. <

And for the fact that there's a large kernel of truth in what they say.

Leaving aside the argument of whether or not our wholesale support of Israel is or is not in our best interest, is there any doubt that American Jews have influence in American politics in great disproportion to their numbers? I'm not saying that's good or bad; it simply seems indisputable to me.

[Beckwith]

even though this support runs counter to America's own national interests

Whose definition of national interests are we talking about here?

[mewzilla]

A response to Mearsheimer and Walt.

Martin Kramer: The Reality Behind Charges About "The Israel Lobby"

[A. Pole]

This paper can be downloaded/read at (PDF format): http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf

[yuta250]

As an ally I believe Isreal is entitled to being under our security umbrella and is deserving of our political support up too a point, but the degree to which we coddle their ambitions running political interference for them and subsidizing their country in such a lavish and generous way is ridiculous. It's well past time they draw up permanent borders and quit pestering us for money.

[Calvin Locke]

the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University

Well, I see two problems right off...

[adam_az]

"Harvard study: AIPAC makes US act against own interests"

My first thought -

Since when can Harvard studies identify US interests?

[wideminded]

1. AIPAC's announced intention is to support the interests of Israel.
2. No two countries have the same interests and every pair of countries has some conflicting interests..
3. It follows that sometimes AIPAC will influencing the US to act against its own interests.

Encouraging people to think that it is antisemitism to mention these facts is a form of mind control.

[LK44-40]

I remember my first real awareness of Israel was in the 6th or 7th grade, which would have been around 1957 (think: Everly Brothers) or 1958.

Jewishness had a low profile in my southern town. The few Jews among us were very assimilated and tended to be high-achieving and respected members of the community, including the mayor. I am not aware that there was any particular Jewish presence in the school system, excepting the odd Jewish student here and there, several of whom were my friends.

Israel caught my young imagination -- and I am betting the imaginaitons of others -- when we learned about kibbutz life in Israel. It sounded like a permanent summer camp where children had escaped bourgeois parenting and were thriving in a socialist (didn't know then what that was exactly) utopia. I have now, to say the least, a radically different feeling about that message and some hostility over the fact that I received it in a way that made it sound so attractive. It was profoundly socialistic, but also, anti-family, anti-bourgeois, anti-American life.

A warm feeling toward Israel was then planted in my soul that I have not yet overcome. But, sometimes, I think that maybe old sentiment is overpowering reason. Israel was a socialist enterprise MUCH friendlier to the USSR than to the U.S., until political expediancy and the interests of dual-loyalty citizens bound it to the U.S.

Now, I feel bound to Israel by my abhorrence of their lunatic Arab enemies with their cult of death.

But, more broadly speaking, I wouldn't mind seeing the interest of Israel versus the interests of the U.S. being disintangled a bit.

[goldstategop]

The Far Left sees Israel in the same light it sees America. As the fount of all evil. A rubbish study like this from prestigious Harvard confirms the moral rot that has spread through our institutions of higher education. Lo and behold: Ph.Ds distribute antisemitic tripe that once could be read only in neonazi rags and on Counterpunch. A college education dear friends, is absolutely worthless to cultivating a morally refined mind.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[veronica]

There are raving anti-semites everywhere, especially at colleges. Even at Harvard.

It started in Germany when "the intellectuals" went after the Jews. This paper is an abomination and will backfire on Harvard, and the authors.