Posted on 03/17/2006 7:09:12 PM PST by Lorianne
The annual Reclaiming America conference often draws controversy, but not always before it even begins.
A national gay-rights group has criticized the conference, set for Friday and Saturday in Fort Lauderdale, for planning a speech by a leader of a ministry to gays, Exodus International in Orlando.
"Giving a speaking opportunity to anyone from the ex-gay movement is wrong," said Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. "It needs to be repudiated at every step, not given a pulpit."
Gary Cass, executive director of the Center for Reclaiming America, shrugged off the complaint: "We believe God can transform people, and the results speak for themselves."
Exodus International was criticized, as was the Center for Reclaiming America, in a report issued March 2 in Miami Beach by the Washington, D.C.-based task force. The report targeted several current outreaches to the young, saying ex-gay therapies largely don't work and cause psychological harm.
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That does not fit in with the queer agenda.
Why is the "ex-gay" aspect so threatening?
Obviously because some people have been acknowleding homosexuality is a choice. Anything that goes to disprove that you are born gay must be shouted down otherwise the militant homosexual agenda is a house of cards.
I obviously am not qualified to merit the origins of each and every gay persons sexuality. However there are countless "bi" or "bi-curious" people that will fully acknowledge it was a phase or something they felt the need to try and then discover the choice just isn't for them.
So if they feel the need to try it and didn't like it or see no purpose in continuing that kind of behavior it must be a threat?
So, if the same guy wanted to turn into a cross dresser would that be okay? but to go back to the straight world is not.
They demand a voice in order to muzzle any other voices expressing a contrary experience.
Someone pointed out to me that if there is one "recovered" homosexual their theory is out the window that it is biological. What are your thoughts on that?
Free speech for me, but not for thee.
"National Gay Rights Group" sounds so impressive. Yet their membership is comprised of a minority of about 2% of the population - what arrogance on their part to think they should have a say in much of anything.
I agree with it.
I have never been convinced that being gay is biological.
I do have a theory that it is mental but not a treatable disorder in terms of medication or that being gay in and of itself is a mental disorder. I don't think you're mentally unhinged or mentally ill just because you're gay.
Fixed it for you.
I don't know if i like to think of it as a mental disorder. I think it might be environmental or sociological. This could be long, long conversation. :o)
IOW this is "jamming" they are trying to silence the message.
Note they do not attack the contents of the message, they just say it should never be permitted to be spoken.
This message is only controversial to homosexual advocates in the USA. The rest of the world has no problem with people leaving the homosexual lifestyle.
List?
If their argument that "once a homosexual, always a homosexual" is taken on its face, then "once a pedophile always a pedophile" would be true. To be honest, I think the rehab rate for recovering homosexuals is greater than that of pedophiles.
Just another of their dirty little secrets.
They want to be able to control who speaks at somebody else's conference??? Why soitenly!!
Consider the prison population.
I have always thought the homoadvocates count the entire prison population as part of the homosexual voting block.
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"Wrong"? Based on who's standard of morality, and why should I adopt Matt Foreman's definition? Why should I reject 6000 years or so of Western/Judeo-Christian thought (or God's standards given though the Bible, depending on your personal world view) merely for the sake of Matt Foreman's penis?
Wrong for the ex-gay organization to even speak? "Free speech for me, but not for thee"?
What needs to be "repudiated at every step" are dictators and tyrants, plus their "would be's" and "wannabes" like 'ol Mr. Matt and the NGLTF. They live in America. If they don't like the U.S. Constitution plus Amendments, they are free to move elsewhere to a more "enlightened" country where the rule of law is based upon other, more subjective moral standards.
SFS
That whole hate crimes thing is not working out after all.
The homosexuals in FL can not force the state to allow homosexuals access to children via adoption, the homosexuals have not been able to force fl to give special civil rights status, so it is only left for them to try and "jam" anything which hinders their ability to claim immutability to their mental illness sex fetish.
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Hmmm ... well, alot of us figure this out after our medical practitioner gave us our first rectal exam. My "phase" ended pretty quickly. I instinctively knew that there had to be something "more" out there for me.
Just joshing.. folks. E-A-S-Y now. :-)
More seriously, there's a common "thread" of sexual behavior from "vanilla", generally heterosexual sex to "kink" to "extreme" to the "forbidden". I've seen all sorts of "contracts" and manifestos by those who have rejected the black and white "bright lines" of the Bible for the secular-humanist values of moral relativism. The bottom line is ... there is no bottom line, if the line wasn't set by some entity other than man, i.e. God Himself. The issue isn't "was I born gay or a breeder", because that's no more relevant than the guy who might state "I was born a pedophile..", or I was "born to sexually torture".
Who sets the rules? If the answer is man, the legislature and the USSC, dictator and tyrants, or even "two consenting adults", then we're all in a whole lot of trouble. The problem with the logic that drives the political left's gay agenda is that it cannot possibly be extrapolated out to it's logical conclusion. What is "kink" to one is "extreme" to another, and vice-versa. What is "forbidden" to most, may be another's "normal" daily business, regardless of the fact that it includes your children in his or her fantasy. The rules can slide, unless God sets them.
Do I have "forbidden" sexual fantasies with another man, multiple women, animals or even children? Am I a bi-sexual, metrosexual, or something more conventional? It doesn't matter. God's rules bind my behavior, and regardless of what other impulses or drives I might (or might not) have, His rules guide my life. I'll be the faithful husband of one wife and father to my children even if I have hidden fantasies, because life is not all about my penis, and I am accountable to others, most of all to God.
The counter-culture gay movement never figures this out. The make excuses for their immorality that do not hold water spiritually or logically.
SFS
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