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Documents confirm Saddam Hussein government knew Zarqawi headed Al Qaeda cell in Iraq in August 2002
http://www.lauramansfield.com ^ | March 17, 2006 | By Laura Mansfield

Posted on 03/17/2006 7:44:21 AM PST by Calpernia

March 17, 2006: Documents confirm Saddam Hussein government knew Zarqawi headed Al Qaeda cell in Iraq in August 2002

Documents released Thursday by the US government show that less than a year after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, Saddam Hussein’s government had identified at least one active Al Qaeda cell in his country.

Among the Iraqi documents collected by U.S. intelligence during the Iraq war amd released Thursday is a document, released only in Arabic, which the US government describes as follows:

2002 Iraqi Intelligence Correspondence concerning the presence of al-Qaida Members in Iraq. Correspondence between IRS members on a suspicion, later confirmed, of the presence of an Al-Qaeda terrorist group. Moreover, it includes photos and names.

A translation of the document shows that the Al Qaeda terrorist that Saddam Hussein’s government had identified was none other than Abu Mus’ab al Zarqawi, who emerged as one of the leading terrorists in post-Saddam Hussein Iraq.

The document, dated August 17, 2002, identifies the Al Qaeda member as Ahmed Fadil Nizal Al Khalaylah, the real name of Zarqawi, and includes a series of photos of Zarqawi. (See link at http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents-docex/Iraq/ISGZ-2004-019920.pdf)

A memo within the document shows that as early August 8, 2002, Zarqawi was identified as a member of “Tanzeem al Qaeda”, or the “Al Qaeda Organization”.

This document provides startling documentation that at the very least that Saddam Hussein’s government knew that Al Qaeda was active and functioning in Iraq.

Although the document goes on to outline activities of the group, there is no indication that the Iraqi government took any steps to stop Al Qaeda from operating within Iraq, in clear defiance of international law.





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To: TNCMAXQ

"GWB should get on prime time TV talking about this. I have no doubt clinton would do it if he thought it would help him."

What goal does Bush achieve by going on TV?

Changing minds of democrats or the media?

Behaving like Clinton?

Bush is not running again, unless we pass another amendment. He is not a man to waste words.

Let others take up the charge. Let those who aspire to be President next play political games with these 1,000s of boxes of documents.

I read quite a bit last night. I didn't see a smoking gun, but it sure sounded like talk about some remaining biological material, as a minimum.


81 posted on 03/17/2006 5:12:24 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Calpernia
They have created other outlets to get their info out. That includes their own broadcasts, websites and prompted up news casters.

Sorry, if their weren't other outlets, we wouldn't know any of this information.

I understand this - But the reality is the WH has a huge bully-pulpit that every POTUS has used (and most effectively)....GWB has not used this bully-pulpit nearly enough.

Nor has the WH found enough creative ways to get their message out - Additionally the POTUS has not addressed the nation enough (using Cheney in this role...during prime-time speeches would be an excellent idea...or SecDef Rumsfeld).

We are at war. A world war. The WH should be addressing the nation once a month (on Avg). Using either GWB, Cheney or Rumsfeld.

The reality is we have fought and continue to fight the most effective unconventional war in the history of man. Our successes our historically amazing.....the progress throughout much of the ME is truly astounding.....yet this message is not making it to nearly enough.

Blaming a MSM that we all know is bias....just doesn't cut it.

82 posted on 03/17/2006 5:15:02 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

First, I don't know what a bully pulpit is.

Second, if they didn't have creative ways of getting info out, we wouldn't know what we do know.

Third, MSM is not just bias. It is funded by the same source that created this war.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts
George Soros, Media Connections - Bump List

Back later.


83 posted on 03/17/2006 5:18:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sissyjane
This info needs to come from the Government, not bloggers. If the blogs are the information dispensers, it will gain no leverage.

I think you are so wrong.

Bloggers hit millions of people every day. Get some of the big blogs on this thing and it'll get attention.

I think Harriet Miers and the UAE port deal were directly because of bloggers.

Listen, why pull arab translators needed so desperately by the army and agencies fighting this war, off the job? When there's a whole world of bloggers out there eager to help.

84 posted on 03/17/2006 7:04:02 PM PST by Fishtalk
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To: Calpernia

This is fake garbage. There were never terrorists in Iraq before the US invasion and Saddam never supported international terrorism. CNN said so. /Liberal Kool-Aid-drinker propaganda off


85 posted on 03/17/2006 7:13:01 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Calpernia

bttt


86 posted on 03/17/2006 7:36:10 PM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: roses of sharon
Any of his statements would be disputed, and he would be accused of lying, and the public will buy anything the MSM says.

Not only that, but if Sandy Burglar got his hands pants on any of these documents he'd put a Kinko's Copy Center stamp on the back of them to prove they came from some Republican operative in Texas.

87 posted on 03/17/2006 7:43:07 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: shield
Some lefty on Larry King last night said Saddam knew how to control these sects even if it was by terror it worked and he should still be the leader of Iraq. Of course, the USA made a huge mistake by the war on Iraq.

In effect, what the leftist scum is saying is it's OK for Saddam to murder and torture these religious people, but WE can't do it. The left wants dead muslims, but WE aren't allowed to shoot them fair and square.

88 posted on 03/17/2006 7:46:14 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Fishtalk

I don't think I stated myself correctly. Blogs will get attention, but if the media picks up on what the Blogs are reporting, then more of the public will have access to this vital information.

If the army and agencies fighting this war's 'translators' don't give this attention, then a lot of people won't give it the attention it deserves.

I'm quite sure , that the intelligence agencies have the information from these documents. The public is the last to know. As it should be.


89 posted on 03/17/2006 9:34:22 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Labyrinthos
I hate to be a party pooper, but nothing in that document indicates that AQ was in Iraq at the request of or with the consent of the Iraqi government of that they were acting in concert or conspiring to act in concert.

Why didn't the government of Iraq advise us that members of an organization which was a declared enemy of ours was in their territory, and take affirmative steps to detain them?

Possible answers.

1. They didn't wanna.

2. They couldn't.

Leave aside all other factors; either answer makes Iraq a perfectly legitimate target under Bush doctrine.

90 posted on 03/17/2006 10:44:51 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Calpernia

Bloggers aren't going to reach the sheeple out there who have been convinced that "Bush lied" by the MSM. Unfortunately, only the MSM can reach all those people at one time.

Sad, but true. We'll just have to count on word-of-mouth and the history books...no, wait, the libs write those, too.


91 posted on 03/18/2006 2:06:41 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Liberals/Media Hate Us Just as Much as They Hate Bush.)
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To: Calpernia
This is extremely interesting intelligence gathering, considering the Leftist media continues to this day Saddam had absolutely nothing to do with al-Qadia...sure he didn't.

Oh and Saddam's multi-truck loads of Iraqi WMD are not in Syria either, according to the 'mass media propaganda machine.

92 posted on 03/18/2006 3:00:11 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free - never)
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To: CheyennePress
Will someone out there tell the Bush administration that as enough of these documents start rolling out that it might be a wise idea to hold a live address and put forward the evidence themselves instead of relying on the media to distort it to the point that Saddam Hussein was taking pictures of Zarqawi to create wanted posters to distribute through tht Arab world?

BUSH has been telling his people to "put these out now", and know EXACTLY how helpful they would be to him.

Up until now (and Russia coming out against Iran sanctions) DIA chief Negroponte has been holding them, and didn't want to release them, thinking it would embarrass allies.

He figured it would be more harmful to Russia/France on the Iran/Syria issues, than it would help the (in his mind "past") Iraq issue.

93 posted on 03/18/2006 6:10:48 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

Oh yeah, and I also agree with your live address once there is a volume of things to easily fill an hour.


94 posted on 03/18/2006 6:12:31 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: Fishtalk
I think Harriet Miers and the UAE port deal were directly because of bloggers.

Please don't lump the much more reasoned, measured, and sane (although heated) Miers reaction, with the embarrassing disgrace of the UAE racial hysteria.
95 posted on 03/18/2006 6:43:17 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: Calpernia

http://i1.tinypic.com/rmmgpf.jpg
96 posted on 03/18/2006 6:52:55 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: eyespysomething; backhoe; FreedomNeocon

Do you think as documents get translated, they should get their own thread? There are going to be thousands.

Or, EyeSpy, as you ping you indicate in a ping that it is a new translation?

Or, should we be maticulous in adding the new translations to backhoe's bump list as a translation vs. an URL to a thread?

Look at Freedom's new post, I think it is the follow up to Saddam's notification about the freedom fighters/maryters going to Afghanistan.

FreedomNeocon, do you know the Western calendar date for this directorate?


97 posted on 03/18/2006 7:00:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Sorry, thats now new... that is the one thate everyone is talking about.

Seems to be the same one that RUSH read on Friday's show.

The 1st translation seems to have come from Omar over at http://www.IraqTheModel.com.

I just surfed over there and saw he has a pdf up there... the text is exactly as I've seen elsewhere.

Anyway, I just made a screen shot of it, cropped it, added the source link to the top left, and posted to free hosting for easier 'sharing'.

Anyway, thinking this is the same one RUSH read, the date of that document is September 15th, 2001.

Yes, thats right.


98 posted on 03/18/2006 7:04:57 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: Calpernia

The more I think about it... I think he was reading from the ABC News story, which seems to have been soruced from IraqTheModel.


99 posted on 03/18/2006 7:06:22 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: backhoe; eyespysomething; FreedomNeocon

Thanks Freedom.

We have to figure out a way to keep these docs organized. Arabic translates differently that latin languages. A different interpretation can look like a new doc.


100 posted on 03/18/2006 7:09:38 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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