McCain Screams at 9/11 Families for a Security America Member for Opposing his Illegal Amnesty Bill

9/11 Families for a Secure America ^ | 15 March 2005 | Peter Gadiel

[Spiff]

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE

ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:

At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:

McCain looked at Joan and said : “You're kidding, aren't you?”

Joan Molinaro : “No, we're not kidding.”

At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”

Peter Gadiel : “ Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.”

McCain : “It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote…."

Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"

By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.

9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.

Sen. Lindsay Graham admits that cheap labor, especially the cheap greens fees at golf courses, are more important than enforcing the law.

9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.

The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.

We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.

We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the “markup” session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.

The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the ‘86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.

This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.

Meeting with Administration officials

Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.

We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.

[ClaireSolt]

Surely, screening of guest workers will eliminate convicted felons. No plan can eliminiate all those who will commit crimes in the future, though that can be grounds for deportation as it has been.

[ConsentofGoverned]

"If we shipped all the illegals out of the country tomorrow, what would happen to american manufacturing and the agriculture sector? Okay, now if that can't work, what do you propose to suggest?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........................
Your assumption is that Illegals working here are vital to our economy. No, American citizens working here are vital.
Dislocations in some businesses that have used illegal labor will happen, and the results should be borne by them.
If it requires (heaven forbid) higher wages paid to American citizens then so be it..the impact will be less than a 5% increase in inflation well tolerable. With More Americans working the increase in payroll will quickly put the lie to the assumption that America needs cheap labor.
As for a guest worker program: An old solution was You have a sponsor here in America to bring you here> the sponsor is responsible for your welfare and work.
Those businesses that need this labor will have more expenses to start a system to provide a sponsor (sponsor could be a corp or business not just individual)
The guest worker signs up with INS at border check points/or consular sites in Mexico and Canada. is verified by them..then a computer listing of guestworkers is provided to sponsors..the sponsor then applies for those workers it needs. we could go into deeper detail but you get the idea..it is not so hard nor is it unfair. We get labor that is identified and limited and control of where they are..so when after 12 months they must leave and reapply. If not the sponsor bears legal consequences if guest workers violate their length of stay.
{PS dyslexia, m for n??

[Spiff]

I will never vote for McCain or believe this ridiculous "report".

Well, for once, you and I can agree on something. Neither one of us will ever, EVER vote for McCain.

[BobS]

"Queeg will snap so publicly someday that there is no way he will be President, much less nominated."

The same goes for Mrs. Bill Clinton. An artful person can get her to act like somebody's last 3 wives rolled into one. An artful person can make McCain act like somebody's husband from hell.

I would like this to happen within about a week, so they can be compared to each other on video. These are lunatics. The wackos tell you up front what they are without the noise.

[jigsaw]

LOL!   Thanks for posting that.   I hadn't seen it.

[Pearls Before Swine]

And some people want to see him elected President?He needs to try to get a hold of himself.

Some Republicans don't think of Dean as a real Republican. How about an "all rage crossover ticket" -- McCain for President, Dean for VP?

[EternalVigilance]

During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent.

Wow.

[Czar]

Quite a revealing post. Thanks for putting it up.

McCain is a real POS. I know many Arizonans would love to dump his ass. Amazing it hasn't already happened.

[Clemenza]

McCain has just killed his chances for the Presidency.

[Shermy]

"And some people want to see him elected President?"

He's testy. His payroll for the 08 election must require success on his amnesty bill.

[BARLF]

Every time I see McCain I see a Charles Keating shadow.

[EternalVigilance]

Time for a new tagline...

[Mo1]

At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”

He really said that to 9/11 family members???

[EternalVigilance]

Thanks for the new tagline material! ;-)

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

No problem.

:)

[tiredoflaundry]

And this wants to be President!

[defconw]

Oh please tell me some one got this on video.

[EternalVigilance]

"After all I've done for you people!!!"

[chris1]

If he is the nominee, I will sit it out.

Screw the GOP if they put him up there.

Enough is enough.

[chris1]

Don't you love how now the bushbots are sticking up for McCain????

Could these people not get more ridiculous???

McCain is an arrogant jerk for his reaction.