Posted on 03/14/2006 5:58:55 PM PST by Louisiana
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?
Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co - exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.
That is the fundamental issue. They seek to force change. Most of Christianity believes in free will, and the choice for salvation.
The Kurds of Seattle dancing in the streets after the fall of Baghdad saying God Bless George Bush are but one example.
And these same people wonder why their religionists accuse them of idolatry and blasphemy? God bless America would have significant impact. To give credit to a simple man (even if the President and CIC) is misguided.
I know. I admire the Pope greatly, as do most devout Catholics. And yet, many devout Catholics, including priests, have gone to war for this country again and again.
And our opinions are usually based on persoanl experience.
The radicals, of which there are many, seek to force change. The vast majority of muslims do not, especially in this country.
Well, if not for GWB being president, Saddam would still be in his palace.
You could ask the same thing of a Christian. A committed Christian, will always put his allegiance to God first.
Most Christians, of course, are very patriotic, and while there is always tension between patriotism and religious faith, in the US that tension has been manageable. It is the source of much of its history, and the source of much that is good in this country.
I was raised Roman Catholic, did my stint as an altar boy, learned the Mass in both Latin and english, fought to stay awake during Novenas, and survived the prescribed years in religion class.
I don't recall ever being taught any dogma that in any way conflicted with being patriotic and a good citizen.
Many of us were rather puzzled when the ignorant newspapermen warned hysterically that elected a Catholic would put the Pope in the White House.
Can some one quote me anything that would support that view?
At a time when America should be a light unto the nations in hopes of inspiring democracy and human rights across the Muslim world, I'm infuriating by this tired bullshit. A devout Muslim is just as capable as a devout Jew or a devout Christian of being an American patriot and loyal citizen. Don't post every little piece of trash you find cluttering your inbox in FR.
Thanks for bringing this point forward. This is the "Tim McVeigh" counterpoint. I suppose that in some twisted way, I could blame Americans working airport security that did not stop the September 11th groups. Perhaps I could even blame the American flight attendants for failing to properly fight back. Maybe even each American pilot or commanding officer of the aircraft involved must bear the blame for opening the cockpit doors. Yet no, I trusted these Americans (and still do). It was Muslims that had already stated their intent, screaming "allahu Akbar" that committed the acts. And so, I do not trust Muslims; and shall not within my lifetime. Forgiveness and mercy do not trust make.
No. Never.
If this question is about "allegiance," there is an exception to every rule.
However generally, the answer is NO.
Agree. But Chena, have your brush ready!
This has everything to do with the Kurds' well-earned hatred of Saddam and nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of patriotism. Did they dance in the streets and say God bless George Bush after the 2004 elections? Why not?
Are you kidding? The question as to whether a Christian can be a American patriot and a loyal citizen??
Wow, I've seen some ignorant posts, but this one is a beaut.
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