What DPW Wrought

The Strata-Sphere ^ | March 14th, 2006 | AJStrata

[Cannoneer No. 4]

To Hell with Them by Rich Lowry

When Hawks Run by John Podhoretz

[Echo Talon]

Need solutions not rhetoric. :)

[Para-Ord.45]

Paging Mr. Levin. Mark Levin please pick up the Hell Hawk phone.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Never have listened to him. Is he talking about this now?

[Cboldt]

Levin's handle here is "holdonnow"

[Para-Ord.45]

Mark Levin is sharp as a razor,just wrong on his Dubai position.And he`s sticking to it.

[Sam the Sham]

We cannot give up on the idea of transforming the Middle East, to foster the competition of peace and prosperity, as long as the majority of people there are willing to fight and die for that future.

Really ?

Every Muslim state is an ethnic civil war waiting to happen. Once an American army enters a Muslim state this disrupts the internal ethnic pecking order and all hell breaks loose. By our very presence we get sucked into the ethnic civil war that follows.

Willing to die for that future ? Are the Shiite militiamen imposing Sharia on Basra fighting for that future ? And the most effective units in the Iraqi military are simply Shiite and Kurd militias in uniform. Believing that the ethnic groups that find us useful for the moment are 'allies' fighting for 'democracy' is incredibly naive.

[Hawk1976]

Shhhhhh....Don't tell that to the sell out the ports at any cost crowd.

Listen to the imams sermons and then ask me what we are going to have to do about this "sick individual". What about a sick raving psychotic murderer who is prone to violent attacks and never will be in his right mind? Better for society and him that he is put down.

[eyespysomething]

we see two factions competing here in the US: one group seeing who can raise the most alarms about Muslims and Arabs in America, and one competing to seperate and isolate Islamists from the broader Muslim community while reaching out to that broader community to follow our path. Not the path of the Islamists.

I convinced my m-i-l this past weekend that the DPW business deal wasn't that bad after all. I filled her in on a bunch of info, and she said "I didn't know any of that."

[hedgetrimmer]

the DPW business deal wasn't that bad after all if you're a globalist pushing "interdependence" so America CANNOT be an INDEPENDENT nation anymore. That’s what the Dubai deal is all about, and the deal with China. The goal take enemy nations and intertwine their economies with ours is to destroy our independence.

[Echo Talon]

Every Muslim state is an ethnic civil war waiting to happen. Once an American army enters a Muslim state this disrupts the internal ethnic pecking order and all hell breaks loose. By our very presence we get sucked into the ethnic civil war that follows.

Maybe we need to try and transform the ME without military forces.

[eyespysomething]

If you think America can sit back and isolate ourselves at this point, you are sadly mistaken. The world will go on right past us.

I don't know what to do about the one world thingie going on now, but it's pretty much beyond being stopped. Just like our mammoth federal government.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

To Hell with Them is your position?

There are homogenous Muslim states.

We don't have too many choices.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Congratulations!

[Dark Skies]

Maybe we need to try and transform the ME without military forces.

Transform this...

[TheLion]

Bump!

[Sam the Sham]

And why are you so certain the Middle East has the least wish to be transformed ? Isn't that an incredibly arrogant certainty on your part ? Who told you that they look up to and admire you and want to be just like you ?

Isn't the entire point of oil wealth that they don't have to transform ? That they can just buy Western things and remain medieval societies ?

[Sam the Sham]

You globalists like to present false dichotomies.

You bandy around the term 'isolate' as if that is some bad thing that we are supposed to shrink back from like a vampire from a cross. What you really mean is to look out for ourselves first and foremost instead of trusting people who hate us.

And no, the one world thingie is not unstoppable. This is a sovereign America no matter what the WSJ says and last week the American people told the one worlders to go to hell.

One world thing ? You think China and India are not old fashioned great powers, hardly the one world globalists of your imagination ? You think Japan's motives aren't patriotic and nationalist ?

[Miss Marple]

Well, it seems to me that over 8 million Iraqis voting last year seemed to pretty much say that they wanted to be transformed.

Who are you to say what people in the Middle East want? You don't have any more credibility than President Bush...in fact, I would say less.

[Sam the Sham]

Apparently you understand less than nothing.

Shiites voted for Shiites. Sunnis voted for Sunnis. Kurds voted for Kurds. Hardly the 'transformation' you and Echo Talon are babbling about. Indeed, if there were a completely free election in Egypt tomorrow the Muslim Brotherhood would win. That is why there will never be one if Mubarak can help it.