[Echo Talon]

Every Muslim state is an ethnic civil war waiting to happen. Once an American army enters a Muslim state this disrupts the internal ethnic pecking order and all hell breaks loose. By our very presence we get sucked into the ethnic civil war that follows.

Maybe we need to try and transform the ME without military forces.

[Dark Skies]

Maybe we need to try and transform the ME without military forces.

Transform this...

[Sam the Sham]

And why are you so certain the Middle East has the least wish to be transformed ? Isn't that an incredibly arrogant certainty on your part ? Who told you that they look up to and admire you and want to be just like you ?

Isn't the entire point of oil wealth that they don't have to transform ? That they can just buy Western things and remain medieval societies ?