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9/11 Responders Face Uncertain Future
Millennium Radio ^ | By: Martin Di Caro

Posted on 03/14/2006 11:12:58 AM PST by Calpernia

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1 posted on 03/14/2006 11:13:02 AM PST by Calpernia
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2 posted on 03/14/2006 11:14:15 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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An estimated 40,000 people responded to the collapse and worked on the recovery for months afterward. Twenty-three of them have died, according to attorneys and relatives of WTC recovery personnel. Some 9/11 related advocacy groups place the death toll even higher.

Out of curiosity - what would be an average slice of Americans for deaths and disease for 40,000 people? Is this a cause and effect or is it in the statistically normal range?

3 posted on 03/14/2006 11:15:46 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana

Again it the attorneys who go chasing the money...


4 posted on 03/14/2006 11:20:10 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: 2banana
Many of the people working on the pile of debris refused to wear their masks, but rather can be seen with the masks hanging down on their shirts.

Rudy tried to get the men to work in shifts but they refused.

This raised their pay significantly so that when they retired they had a nice paycheck.

There are many reasons for some of the illnesses but sadly, many simply refused to heed the warnings out of real zeal to effect rescues that never happened or simply out of a wish to inrease the amounts in their paychecks.

5 posted on 03/14/2006 11:22:41 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: 2banana

I don't know.


6 posted on 03/14/2006 11:24:54 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: OldFriend

We weren't all offered masks in the first 2 weeks. Equipment became available once it got more organized.


7 posted on 03/14/2006 11:25:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Were all the masks rotting in a warehouse in Hope, Arkansas?


8 posted on 03/14/2006 11:31:28 AM PST by D-Chivas
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To: 2banana

It's hard to say.

Some of these people will be victims of 9/11, some will get ill from what they did at the WTC.

There were a lot of problems trying to get people to wear masks, which were truly insufficient in some cases for the work that was being done. Some needed to be wearing respirators which provide a better fit.

In some cases eagerness to save lives by some volunteers will add to the death count from 9/11, because they put themselves last. But then most heroes do that, don't they.


9 posted on 03/14/2006 11:32:26 AM PST by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: Calpernia

What you did, if you are implying that you worked down at that site, is a wonderful act of humanity and I pray that you stay well and are someday able to forget the horrors of what you saw. I cant imagine the bravery and stamina of the folks that went and helped there. Thank you.
I also cant imagine that it wasn't completely toxic there and, though I'm certainly not litigious, the people who gave so comletely of themselves deserve protection and the best medical that money can provide.


10 posted on 03/14/2006 11:37:01 AM PST by mpackard
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To: Calpernia

Hi Cal!

Just got on FreeRepublic a couple of minutes ago. Has it been down all morning or is it just me?

My husband went for his yearly certification in "hazardous waste" earlier this month and they discussed this situation. The instructor talked about a toxin produced by the millions upon millions of florescent lights in the Towers and how it's effecting first responders. The diagnosis is a rather large name, but I'll ask him when he gets home tonight.

ALSO DISCUSSED IN THE OSHA MEETING:

The EPA was supposed to be monitoring the air. The interesting thing was that no independent air monitoring companies were allowed to test......(donning my tinfoil hat)

If anyone has any further info on this I'd love a link and I'd love to make a little noise & or trouble about this! Sounds like a coverup.


11 posted on 03/14/2006 11:41:18 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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There were two choices, evacuate the city for an untold period of time or do the best to provide resperators for the heroes who worked tirelessly to rescue people.

It was impossible to not know that the air was contaminated.

Further it only rained once in the following month so the air couldn't even be cleaned by rain.

The WTC burned for about one month. The air was constantly filled with smoke from the fires and from the particles that continuously fell from the roof and sides of buildings.

Other than an evacuation I don't see what could have been done.

12 posted on 03/14/2006 11:57:55 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Just got off the phone with my husband and he said that there are numerous illnesses. Two that I can remember were: Syllacyosys (sp) a black lung type disease and a Mercury poisoning disease due to the mercury in the lights.


13 posted on 03/14/2006 12:00:45 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: OldFriend

The WTC burned 100 days.


14 posted on 03/14/2006 12:06:38 PM PST by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: OldFriend
"Other than an evacuation I don't see what could have been done."

The issue that concerns me is that no independent air monitoring companies were allowed to monitor the air. We had to take the EPA's word for it. I know & understand the gravity of the situation, brave workers were at first, trying to rescue survivors or find the dead.

But,why no independent monitoring of the air quality???? I find that the most troublesome.

15 posted on 03/14/2006 12:12:05 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

You have freepmail.


16 posted on 03/14/2006 12:13:35 PM PST by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: Calpernia

Are the affected workers being bounced through a liability coverage problem from their employer, or has the US Gov't accepted responsibility and the medical bills just haven't been paid yet? Are they being denied treatment??

On the surface this looks like a redundant coverage bill.


17 posted on 03/14/2006 12:19:21 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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There were concerns about air quality from day one:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/02/07/usat-wtc-acov.htm

The Government must accept responsibility.


18 posted on 03/14/2006 12:30:20 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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Found more links"

http://www.gothamgazette.com/rebuilding_nyc/topics/impact/health_risks.shtml

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/02/07/usat-wtc-acov.htm

http://www.gothamgazette.com/rebuilding_nyc/topics/impact/health_risks.shtml


19 posted on 03/14/2006 12:34:52 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: Calpernia
Everyone who toiled at Ground Zero should be given the presumption that their illnesses were related to 911!!!

There will always be 10% who don't deserve it and 10% who scam the system, but for the sake of our First Responders "TO BE", the last thing they should have to worry about is whether or not they will be thrown to the wolves should they become ill as a result of their heroic actions.

Pass the bill, sign it into law and take care of our FIRST RESPONDERS, NOW!!!

20 posted on 03/14/2006 12:37:03 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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