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The Ports and the President ("Dick Cheney is winning the power struggle at the White House")
NFRA ^ | William J. Murray

Posted on 03/13/2006 10:30:20 PM PST by Cedar

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To: LibertarianInExile; A. Pole; ClaireSolt; hedgetrimmer; oceanview; Nowhere Man; 1rudeboy; Dane; ...
To keep inflation down in a nation with an economic growth rate as large as that of the USA requires actions that are viewed by most as repugnant. This includes the outsourcing of jobs to India and other nations, which keeps down the costs of labor in the United States, as does the importation of illegal aliens from Mexico. Big businesses such as Microsoft or General Electric may not hire illegals, but the mere presence of illegals holds down the entire wage scale of all Americans and it is for that reason big business backs the presence of illegals in the United States.

It is estimated that the combination of illegals and outsourcing brings down the average wage of American workers by more than 10% and virtually stops wage growth. This is good for business and keeps inflation down - for now! The fact that the middle class is being destroyed and the social fabric of the nation is being strained is not important to the Treasury or the FED.

The Christian Right is getting it !!! The money quote.

41 posted on 03/14/2006 4:21:39 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: montag813

That picture just killed my buzz.


42 posted on 03/14/2006 11:04:12 AM PST by chris1
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To: CowboyJay

Yes, but when you disengage with another country then you have no leverage over that country. My point is that it's a more complex situation than the writer thinks.


43 posted on 03/14/2006 11:09:24 AM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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To: Cedar

Christianity isn't banned in the UAE.


44 posted on 03/14/2006 11:16:04 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Cedar; Sam the Sham; montag813; Atlantic Bridge; CowboyJay; LibertarianInExile; Lancey Howard; ...
Wonder how many more lies, made up hysteria and unconfirmed rumors about the Port Deal the Whine all the Time Choir is going to post? Don't these people ever get tired of being the Democrat Party's Propaganda mouthpieces?

HERE is what the Port Deal was about you silly people.

Was it not just the sweetest little Influence for Hire scam.

Eller & Co , run by fat cat Democrat Donors, got beat out for the P&O deal by Dubai Port World. They hired a big shot lawyer and filed a lawsuit. They knew the Lawsuit was crap so they scurried up to Capitol Hill to cry for help. The Unions also hated the deal cause they knew in new Union Negotiations with the new company they were going to get seriously squeezed by demands of labor saving technological improvements. Chucky Schumer, head of the Democrat Senate Election Committee, took the lobbying info and ran with it. It allowed him to do a number of things. It allows Democrats to nuke their "weak on National Security" PR vulnerability. It gets him a big wet sloppy kiss from the unions in terms of money and foot solider for the Senate campaigns. It gets him big dollars from the Port Terminal companies, it drives a wedge into the Republican base, and best of all he got Know Nothing Talking Heads like Sean Hannity, Mike Savage and Laura Ingraham etc. to do the PR dirty work for him.

The best thing is he can walk away a big winner now, OR he can go to stage two and lobby that the ports be "nationalized" like they did with the Airline Screeners. The Congresscowards, their usual gutless selves, simply looked at the polls and panicked. NEVER even thought that they should stand by the President and fight for the truth. They simply panicked and rolled over for the Dem's AGAIN.

No national security implications, no nonsense about "turning our ports over to Arabs" simply a business deal where the losers went to Congress to buy the influence to reverse the deal. The same Americans running the port terminals now would of been running them after the deal for Dubai Port World. The name on the outside of the terminal and the name on the paycheck given to the American terminal workers would have change and that is about it.

Simply amazing that the same people who whine endlessly about "Bush big spending" and "Big Govt Republicans" now have seen to it that there will be an expansion in the cost, scope and reach of the Federal Govt over the Private Sector. That's the REALITY which the Whine All The Time Choir just screamed down rather then admit the knee jerk nature of their "I'm mad at Bush" hissy fit about the Terminal Deal.

But that right. Don't try to actually learn the facts. Just scream "Koolaid drinker" or "Bush bot" and cling your rabid ignorance.

45 posted on 03/14/2006 11:32:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Great post. Thanks for the ping.


46 posted on 03/14/2006 11:38:52 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Cedar

Yeah, he's controlling GWB with his joystick again. Probably from that same undisclosed location he takes the liberals he invites bird hunting.


47 posted on 03/14/2006 11:58:04 AM PST by .cnI redruM ("Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. - W. Sultan)
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To: Echo Talon

Unlikely, since the muslims are killing Christians around the world in record numbers.
Ops4 God Bless America!


48 posted on 03/14/2006 12:44:48 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: Echo Talon

Unlikely, since the muslims are killing Christians around the world in record numbers.
Ops4 God Bless America!


49 posted on 03/14/2006 12:44:50 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: CowboyJay
An essential tenet of the Christian faith is evangelism (the spreading of the word of Christ). While Christians are not actively persecuted simply for holding to their beliefs, they would be subject to criminal prosecution for fully practicing their religion in the UAE. In short; they're not free to practice their religion in public.

It's like that in most of the ME, USE is no different. They are more free than other countries though.

50 posted on 03/14/2006 1:35:43 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: La Enchiladita; All
The latest I heard around here is that DPW is holding on to the 6 ports until May. Just because the "story" has died down doesn't mean there aren't developments...

DPW doesn't own the port terminal leases. They brought P&Q and P&Q owns the leases. When Congress raised its fit DPW just made P&Q a subsidiary of DPW instead of changing the name P&Q to DPW. That way no port terminal leases have changed hands. DPW owns P&Q and has no plans to sell P&Q. P&Q owns the port terminal leases and has no plan to sell the leases. P&Q does not require a security check, they have been doing business in American pots since the 1600's.

51 posted on 03/14/2006 1:41:40 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: defenderSD; Cedar; All
"We give the Islamic states hundreds of billions of dollars for oil, but we have nothing to sell them to get the money back except equity in our businesses."

The US has a 700 million dollar trade surplus with UAE, not a deficient.

52 posted on 03/14/2006 1:46:40 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Cedar
"Cheney wants business as usual with the Islamic world despite the fact that our dollars are financing the Islamist war against us. "


Unfounded cheap shot from this guy, his own words fracture any credibility that he might of had.
53 posted on 03/14/2006 1:53:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: MNJohnnie

The Democrat plan did not work to steal the operation of port terminal leases. DPW simple made P&Q a subsituary of DPW and no leases exchanged hands. P&Q still owns the leases. A security check is not required. DP has no plans to sell P&Q. Congress took a big one.


54 posted on 03/14/2006 2:06:10 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: MNJohnnie
"HERE is what the Port Deal was about you...[extended revisionist perspective]...[insults]...[post-Harriet-Miers-esque diatribe]"

Bitter, party of one, your table is ready. You lost. Again.

55 posted on 03/14/2006 2:24:38 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: La Enchiladita

You are correct. UAE is NOT giving up, or selling our portion of this company.

It's all a lie, from what I've heard. This is not over...


56 posted on 03/14/2006 3:44:14 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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I don't know what you're talking about. DPW bought the port operation from P&O, the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company.
57 posted on 03/14/2006 3:58:56 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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To: meema

Really. We've all been had. Just because DPW SAID they would divest, we believed it? *smacking my forehead*


58 posted on 03/14/2006 4:01:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

"""From the European point of view the high US-defict is indeed a problem""


You realize dont you that the USA would not have such a large trade deficit if 10% of Europe wasnt chronically unemployed and EuRo zone GDP growth wasnt perenially stuck at 1%

Frankly if the US consumer didnt spend so much money, the global economy would fall into a deep recession.


59 posted on 03/14/2006 4:31:39 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: La Enchiladita
I don't know what you're talking about. DPW bought the port operation from P&O, the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company.

You are correct I made a mistake.

60 posted on 03/14/2006 4:46:55 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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