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Court upholds "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" student banner
Yahoo News ^ | 3/10/06 | Reuters

Posted on 03/11/2006 1:00:05 PM PST by wagglebee

An Alaska high school violated a student's free speech rights by suspending him after he unfurled a banner reading "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" across the street from the school, a federal court ruled on Friday.

Joseph Frederick, a student at Juneau-Douglas High School in Alaska, displayed the banner -- which refers to smoking marijuana -- in January 2002 to try to get on television as the Olympic torch relay was passing the school.

Principal Deborah Morse seized the banner and suspended the 18-year-old for 10 days, saying he had undermined the school's educational mission and anti-drug stance.

Friday's ruling by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco overturned a decision by a federal court in Alaska that backed Frederick's suspension and said his rights were not violated.

The appeals court said the banner was protected speech because it did not disrupt school activity and was displayed off school grounds during a non-curricular activity.

"Public schools are instrumentalities of government, and government is not entitled to suppress speech that undermines whatever missions it defines for itself," Judge Andrew Kleinfeld wrote in the court's opinion.

The court also cleared the way for Frederick to seek damages, saying Morse was aware of relevant case law and should have known her actions violated his rights.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alaska; arson; christophobia; freespeech; govwatch; hatespeech; libertarians; marijuana; murders; ninthcircuit; potheads; riots; wodlist
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To: wagglebee

Didn't alaska recently approve medicinal bongs ?


61 posted on 03/11/2006 4:25:01 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Torie
As one who has always been faithless, did your faith slowly erode, or was there one big epiphanic collapse? Just curious.

Hmmm.. I would say that there were elements of both involved, but "one big epiphanic collapse" would be a much better description than a slow erosion.

The way I usually approach intellectual or philosophical topics of such magnitude is to collect as much information as possible and to contemplate it from as many angles as possible. Meanwhile, I tend to be rather good at running on autopilot, and letting the pieces fall into place largely in my subconscious. So, long as I kept myself within the relentless internal logic of Christianity, then everything seemed in order. As soon as I stepped outside the parameters, it all crumbled apart.

Once in a while I tend to have these flashes of vision, for lack of a better description, where all of a sudden it's as if I can see the entirety of a phenomenon all at once, with all its interlocking pieces spread out before my mind's eye, almost as if you've snapped the case off of a watch. With my erstwhile Christian faith, the 'epiphany' resulted from my study of history. One evening the last gears fell into place and I could 'see' how it situated in the flow of history: How it emerged, how it operated, what functions it played, and why it persisted.

And just like that it all fell apart for me conceptually. Once I stepped beyond its internal logic, the rest was all a self-evident chain of deduction.

62 posted on 03/11/2006 4:57:26 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: Search4Truth

I'll watch the clip in a couple hours. Thanks!


63 posted on 03/11/2006 5:05:43 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv; AmishDude
The premises for your leap of faith turned out to be premises for something else, eh?

I saw "Proof" last night. Interesting movie. I liked it, while my brother fell asleep. It may have had something to do with its location being at my alma mater. The connecting dots came in ones and twos, and then in bursts, punctuated by periods of blockage. What did you think of it AD, if you saw it? Did any of it ring true, other than that heavy duty math types tend to be under stress?

64 posted on 03/11/2006 5:08:23 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

I haven't seen Proof, but I just put it on my list. Right now I'm taking a break from the dreadful horror flick (Saw II) that I'm wondering why I rented..


65 posted on 03/11/2006 5:39:16 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: BnBlFlag; wagglebee

<< Good thing he didn't display the Confederate flag. >>

Or a cartoon portrayal of the barbarians' at the gates furious false fuhrer, the mad-mullah mudhutmmud. In mufti maybe?


66 posted on 03/11/2006 5:44:56 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: A CA Guy
Contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Can you cite any evidence that this law has ever been held to apply to the posting of banners, or are you again making up your "facts" as you go along?

67 posted on 03/11/2006 6:14:03 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: A CA Guy
Every state code I'm aware of defines "contributing to the delinquency of a minor" as an act committed by adults.
68 posted on 03/11/2006 7:07:38 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: wagglebee
The appeals court said the banner was protected speech because it did not disrupt school activity and was displayed off school grounds during a non-curricular activity.

I confess I'm snickering as I write this, but this is another crazy ruling in an increasing long line of irrational decisions by our courts. Unfurling a banner that reads "Bong Hits for Jesus" across the street from a school is free speech?!

"Public schools are instrumentalities of government, and government is not entitled to suppress speech that undermines whatever missions it defines for itself."

Maybe another reason to rethink the whole government education thing.

69 posted on 03/11/2006 7:12:52 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Unfurling a banner that reads "Bong Hits for Jesus" across the street from a school is free speech?!

Of course. What do you think "free speech" means ... only speech of which you approve?

70 posted on 03/11/2006 7:16:02 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: BnBlFlag

no kidding

Bong Hits for the Bonnie Blue!


71 posted on 03/11/2006 7:21:38 PM PST by wardaddy ("hillbilly car wash owner outta control")
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To: wireman

"Burn a fatty not the flag"


72 posted on 03/11/2006 7:25:05 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: Know your rights

I think there is a difference between free speech and belligerent behavior designed to cause trouble. This kid was "practicing" the latter and was rightfully disciplined in my opinion.


73 posted on 03/11/2006 7:27:43 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
I think there is a difference between free speech and belligerent behavior designed to cause trouble.

Where in the First Amendment is this alleged "belligerent behavior designed to cause trouble" exception located?

74 posted on 03/11/2006 7:33:32 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

Umm.. It's right there between the lines. If you close your eyes and picture an emanating penumbra then you will see it.


75 posted on 03/11/2006 7:43:33 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv
A "substantial effect" test would also work.
76 posted on 03/11/2006 7:47:44 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights; Zack Nguyen

"belligerent behavior designed to cause trouble"

Excellent definintion of the principal's reaction.
Indeed, such behavior should be punished. (see post 54)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1594630/posts?page=54#54


77 posted on 03/11/2006 7:58:24 PM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: mrmargaritaville

Dude!


78 posted on 03/11/2006 8:54:56 PM PST by wireman
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To: AntiGuv

"Would you rather he take the bong hits for Satan? ;)"

ROFLMAO! Naw, then there'd be posts here bitching about how the kid needs to turn to Jesus!


79 posted on 03/12/2006 6:38:54 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: Know your rights; AntiGuv

"Substantial effect?" "Penumbras?"

No, no, no.

I'm pretty sure Sandra D. and her choir of 'moderates' on the high court have come up with a three-prong balancing test which ensures that the government have a compelling interest for this sort of thing.


80 posted on 03/12/2006 6:45:21 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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