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To: EBH
It's what been said for months now...islam has nothing to do with religion

People don't blow tghemselves up for politics. They do it because they believe they will be rewarded in the after life.

Multi millionaire Osama bin Laden didn't risk his life and fortune for politics.

The 19 hijackers who were educated, and well off financially, and had plenty of time to back out of the attack didn't kill themselves for politics.

When they die they die saying Allah Akbar. God is great.

It is a religious problem we are faced with. - tom

20 posted on 03/11/2006 6:52:07 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom
It is a religious problem we are faced with. - tom

It's a religious FERVOR we are faced with...but it has been stoked and misdirected by those with GEOPOLITICAL ends.
21 posted on 03/11/2006 6:55:50 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Capt. Tom

They can't deal with the fact that the western world has proved Islam to be a murderous sham. They're consumed with envy and hatred. Nobody likes being duped. One Arab said about a year ago...on Al Jazeera...that it was obvious the West hadn't suddenly invented computers. The West had stolen the idea from Arabs. Like the Russians, Arabs have invented everything, including the wheel.


57 posted on 03/11/2006 8:10:52 AM PST by hershey
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To: Capt. Tom
Well, I humbly disagree with you.

People don't blow tghemselves up for politics. They do it because they believe they will be rewarded in the after life. Sure that's is what they sucker these guys with but when they blow themselves up it is over a political reason, occupation, militancy ultimately. It is being done, 'to sacrafice for the establishment of the islamic theocracy.'

Multi millionaire Osama bin Laden didn't risk his life and fortune for politics. Sure he did. First to get rid of the Russian occupation, then the supposed American infidel on Saudi land, and on and on...Just because he wraps himself up in religious rhetoric doesn't make it non-political.

The 19 hijackers who were educated, and well off financially, and had plenty of time to back out of the attack didn't kill themselves for politics. Really, according to OBL, "Admitting for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks, bin Laden said he did so because of injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United States." (http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/1144711.html) That sounds pretty darn political to me.

When they die they die saying Allah Akbar. God is great. And again, there in is the rub for the western world. It is not so much that they say it as the meaning behind it, which is the establishment of an islamic world ruled politically by islamic law.

And thereby it demonstrates the issue at hand with the western world. We have been so indoctrinated with the idea of seperation of church & state, we don't have the ability to comprehend a theocracy. In our own way we keep desperately trying to seperate islam religion from islam gov't. when the reality is they(muslims) themselves don't want them seperated.

62 posted on 03/11/2006 8:17:55 AM PST by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: Capt. Tom
People don't blow tghemselves up for politics.

People give their lives for all kinds of reasons, including politics ("I regret I have but one life to give for my country..."). Not to mention kamikazes. The fact is that power-seekers have used religious zeal as a figleaf for their murderous agendas throughout history. Nazi ideology had a strong mystical bent which leaned toward pagan religiosity. Hitler had a project ongoing which was to revise the Bible to make him the messiah.

It is a good and legitimate response to the Islamic threat to call into question its religious credentials, in principle, for Islam has nothing in common with any other religion in the world today. It is engaged in wars for territory and power, and unconcerned with the soul. This is a reasonable cause for asking whether it is a religion at all.

72 posted on 03/11/2006 9:11:46 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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