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100,000 people rally over controversial immigration bill
ABC7 News ^ | 3-10-06 | ABC

Posted on 03/10/2006 1:07:00 PM PST by JustPiper

Chicago police say as many as 100,000 protestors are gathering outside the Chicago Federal Center to voice their concerns about a house bill that would tighten immigration laws. The massive demonstration has blocked many streets in the Loop.

The border security bill would make it illegal to assist any undocumented immigrant. That measure is drawing the attention of numerous groups and lawmakers on both sides of the issue.

Thousands of demonstrators gathered at the Chicago Federal Center to protest the house bill 4437. They believe the bill discriminates against undocumented residents and those who try to help them and it robs them of a chance at the American dream.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: alienrights; aliens; chicago; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; protest; seiu
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Youve said that the illegals were at work and the march was college kids. Your opinion on illegals is pretty clear so I have no problem pinning you to a "side". You appear to be to the left of Bush on immigration. In McKennedy territory actually.
241 posted on 03/10/2006 8:17:26 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom
Pew Hispanic puts forward a conservative estimate of 12 million. Is that a "reasonable" number?

OMG. I'm freakin out over here.

242 posted on 03/10/2006 8:18:43 PM PST by Jorge
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To: TheLion
I know Pew Hispanics agenda. I was merely giving Jorge a number from a "friendly" source to get an answer out of him.
243 posted on 03/10/2006 8:19:22 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom

Stores in Hispanic neighborhoods closed for the day so workers could march. All over our local news showing shutdowns.


244 posted on 03/10/2006 8:20:42 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: Jorge
Youre so transparent. Why did you even want to know if 20 mil was accurate. 30 or 40 million would be fine with you.
245 posted on 03/10/2006 8:21:01 PM PST by mthom
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To: roofgoat

Not surprising. thanks


246 posted on 03/10/2006 8:22:44 PM PST by mthom
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To: Jorge
These people's dreams are to have a better life in America

As were many of my relatives, But they were sponsored to this country and applied for citizenship, did you sponsor any of these friends? Did you help them? We helped to sponsor three from Seoul.It's a process that was never questioned until the millions of illegals began coming from Mexico, why is that?

247 posted on 03/10/2006 8:23:03 PM PST by JustPiper (I do not "Recognize" America anymore !!!)
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To: mthom

The government and everyone in the obl's want us to think that 10 or 12 million is no big deal....while others would tell you that the figure is probably between 30 to 50 million.


248 posted on 03/10/2006 8:23:11 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Jorge

Mexico is not a hell hole. Any illegal family members?


249 posted on 03/10/2006 8:24:46 PM PST by mthom
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To: Jorge
Guess that makes me a bad person.

It makes you a person who SUPPORTS BREAKING THE LAW ON A MASSIVE SCALE.

I'll leave the "bad" value judgement to yourself.

250 posted on 03/10/2006 8:26:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: TheLion
No way of knowing really but when Pew Hispanic puts forth 12 million its a safe bet that the real number is somewhere in the range of 12-infinity million.
251 posted on 03/10/2006 8:26:16 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom
Youre so transparent. Why did you even want to know if 20 mil was accurate. 30 or 40 million would be fine with you.

Hey jose, I wanted to know the REAL number. Give me a break.

252 posted on 03/10/2006 8:27:22 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

You realize that giving those 12+ million permanent residency and eventual citizenship would give the dems a majority for the next 50+ years dont you?


253 posted on 03/10/2006 8:29:02 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom

I said most of the demonstrators probably were not illegals and still say that. But I don't know for sure. Do you?


254 posted on 03/10/2006 8:29:39 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: mthom; TheLion; CodeToad

Social Security says that there are 9.5 million "extra" filings for folks who don't really exist (illegals.)

So right there, you have almost ten million illegal aliens working in the above-board economy, where employers file.

Add at least another five to ten million who work for cash under the table.

Add their wives, girlfriends, and many children.

Do the math.

I know that at our local (San Diego) public schools, there are 35 to 40 kids per class, and HALF DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH as their first language. IOW, they arrived sometime AFTER their birth, because at age ten and up, they still don't speak English. IOW, they are newly arriving illegal aliens.


255 posted on 03/10/2006 8:30:32 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Jorge

"Guess that makes me a bad person."

Yes, it does. You sacrifice your own country for the wanton desires of others. We have immigration laws for a reason, to include controlling crime and preventing health hazards, not to mention the economics of it all. They can create a better country for themselves where they are instead of treating this country as nothing but a paycheck. We would be more than happy to help them do that. In fact, we do do that. Billions spent and millions of man hours each year by all kinds of charitable people.


256 posted on 03/10/2006 8:31:35 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: mthom
You realize that giving those 12+ million permanent residency and eventual citizenship would give the dems a majority for the next 50+ years dont you?

Fictional future.

Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.

Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to be allowed to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. The federal government had not taken reasonable efforts to secure the border, and had not pursued "undocumented workers" in the USA. Instead, it openly permitted them most of the benefits of citizenship, and it collected their taxes. "No taxation without representation!" was the cry heard all the way to the Supreme Court. The State of New York had then sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”

Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty-two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens only a year before—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally.

Overnight, wavering Democrat states became locks, and swing states with large Hispanic populations went solidly “blue.” The result was the recent election which had brought Gobernador Deleon to power in Nuevo Mexico, and had also brought radical Democrats to power in the White House and both houses of congress.

Thus had come the political tsunami which swept all before it, a tidal wave triggered by an undocumented lawn maintenance worker named Fernando Ortiz.

257 posted on 03/10/2006 8:31:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: mthom

how about this, since we now allow and encourage illegals to make domestic policy.

I would like a dozens of cargo ships filled with Muslims from Palestine and other ME Countries to invade Mexican Ports, dock, empty and thumb there nose at the Mexican Govt - demand and receive health services free and slowly work their way to our Country. Once numbers are large enough to make a strong showing, storm a major US city and organize a March demanding

1)US Govt (Taxpayer) Support of the Hamas Govt
2)Full Support of the Iran Nuclear Program
3) Withdraw troops from Iraq
etc
etc

Anyone who opposes is racist.

We will accept any and all invaders to our Liberal Cities to shape our Country and the World.


258 posted on 03/10/2006 8:33:02 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I dont know for sure. I do know that most people at gay rights marches are gay. Its safe to assume that many, not a small contingent, of the crowd was illegal. Its common sense. Note the other poster who lives in your city that points out the mexican stores that were closed for the march.
259 posted on 03/10/2006 8:33:41 PM PST by mthom
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To: JustPiper
But they were sponsored to this country and applied for citizenship, did you sponsor any of these friends? Did you help them?

I helped them as much as I could. Financially.
It was to late for me to "sponsor" them. Especially considering, most of them were out of control nut cases. No way I was going to sign anything that made me responsible legally.
I'm sympathetic, but I'm not stupid.

260 posted on 03/10/2006 8:34:04 PM PST by Jorge
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