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To: PJ-Comix
Some years ago, I criticized Bill Clinton in the classroom and mentioned Rush Limbaugh and tried to promote Christian values in my high school students. I learned too -- got fired. What I learned was that society does not want to promote that side of values, but the OTHER side. If one were to promote the Godless attitudes expressed by Bennish, the whole world seems to jump up and provide support.

I called the principal involved about 3 days ago and e-mailed him the story on Jay Bennish which had an audio link and we talked about what happened those long years ago between us. Here's his e-mail response:

XXXXXXX,

One man's revolutionary is another man's hero. The recording actually brought back memories of growing up in the 60's. Funny how times change. Not knowing that teacher, it was difficult for me to figure out whether he was trying to challenge his students to think beyond what they hear on the evening news. I always believed that you , yourself used "shock value" to challenge students to think.

Your obstacles were twofold: 1. You were in xxxxxxxxxx (name of school). 2. Students and parents thought they were in your class only to learn Spanish. Perhaps your ideas would have been better received in a social studies class. Jay's comments, while thought-provoking, could be more justified because of the content setting of his teaching assignment. Colorado is more liberal than xxxxxxxxxx.

I always did admire your high expectations. I hope that time and experience have helped you be more effective in reaching those goals. In most schools (except xxxxxxxxxx), it's good to have a XXXXXXX around to keep things interesting. You just would not want a school full of XXXXXXXs. Hope all is well. Tell the family hello. I hope you have forgiven me for any persecution you may have felt and understand that it was best for everyone, especially you, in the long run. I always say, "You can get bitter, or get better." I trust that, given your outstanding intellectual abilities, the latter is true for you. You have much to offer. Never stop growing.

XXXXXXXXX

How would some of you analyze the above response? Seems to me he is glad Bennish made the comments he made. The liberal side thinks it's okay to indoctrinate students to their point of view, but he opposite is NOT to be tolerated. This is war.

6 posted on 03/10/2006 4:57:26 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
content setting of his teaching assignment.

Geography? Perhaps the school board should pass a resolution saying that a teacher can be fired if he doesn't spend his class time teaching the subject for which he was hired. No wonder so many students do so poorly on end of course exams that ask for content knowledge.

9 posted on 03/10/2006 5:09:03 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
My 9th grade Spanish teacher was a Cuban who, unbelievably, was a big Castro supporter. Even though it was a Spanish class, she kept promoting Castro and his "revolution." Of course, we students kept taunting her that if things were so great in Cuba, why didn't she just go there. Well, one day she didn't show up in class and we found out she actually did go to Cuba to live and work as an interpreter for the government. Some time later we found out she was tossed in jail down there.

The Spanish teacher who followed her was constantly griping that he was being paid as a substitute and not as a regular teacher. One day he was called to the office and never came back. Fired.

10 posted on 03/10/2006 5:09:42 AM PST by PJ-Comix ((Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
How would some of you analyze the above response? Seems to me he is glad Bennish made the comments he made

Of course he is.

He also is writing as if he thinks you are an idiot.

12 posted on 03/10/2006 5:15:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I tend to agree with his notion that political comments are at least more on-topic in a geography class than a Spanish course.


16 posted on 03/10/2006 5:22:02 AM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
How would some of you analyze the above response?

First, I am surprised you would bother communicating with the commielibtard. Second, you you right to criticize Bill Klintoon. The entire country should have slapped him down. Third, I think you should tell him to go obscenity his liberal psuedo-intellectual self. Bennish should be fired the same as you did. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the leftwing gander.

20 posted on 03/10/2006 5:29:37 AM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
He is condescending, arrogant, a smooth leftist spinner, and an Orwellian Newspeaker.

He's innerly delighted you were fired, would support such action again, and he's patting you on the head like a little puppy.

Contacting him for anything just feeds his ego more. You can never change the mind-set of people like him. Write him off. You need his opinion like I need bird flu.

Leni

23 posted on 03/10/2006 5:31:00 AM PST by MinuteGal (Sail the Bounding Main to the Balmy, Palmy Caribbean on FReeps Ahoy 4. Register Now!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"How would some of you analyze the above response? "

Lots of platitudes. Probably got practice with parents telling them how little Billy has potential. He thought you were wrong then, and on reflection, yeah, still wrong today.... you just did not fit his mind set of conformists then and would not today.

But take heart, MeneMeneTekelUpharsin, remember, that you have much to offer us on FR. Never stop growing.

;)


25 posted on 03/10/2006 5:32:38 AM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

People are voting with their feet. At least those that can afford to do so. It seems that a camera with, audio feed, should be mandatory in all public school classrooms. I'll bet the teacher's union would oppose that all the way to the supreme court!

I'm sorry for your termination. Their loss. The public school system is broken. It would completely implode if all Christian school teachers/principals resigned and left them with no balance at all. Socialism doesn't work. No matter how you repackage, rethink, reword the socialist agenda it still produces an elite set overseeing the nameless, unimportant masses.


34 posted on 03/10/2006 5:52:12 AM PST by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Actually I don't think it's a bad response.

First of all the guy is a principal of a liberal school - and you already know he is a liberal. Your email and what happened in Colorado is not going to change his views.

His only reaction to the flap is: Thank the Lord I don't have to deal with that problem.

He said some very nice things about you that he didn't have to say. Focus on those comments.

The best thing in the world for you is to be out of a situation where your work is not valued.


39 posted on 03/10/2006 6:07:48 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yup, he admires Bennish. He was happy to persecute you, hopes you don't hold it against him. The Lord got you out in the nick of time. What pablum. I hope you are in a place that celebrates your courageous attention to the Truth. Teach to the homeschool groups, we love the Truth.


43 posted on 03/10/2006 6:29:15 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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