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To: Tulsa Ramjet
"If he hangs his stetson on this stupid port deal, then things may get interesting this mid-term election"

Don't kid yourself. The Port Deal Hysterics just handed the Democrats the US Senate and probably the US House depending how the Texas case turns out. The crucial edge the Republicans had was National Security. The ignorant bigots with their Port Deal Hysteria just took the Democrats Senate PR stunt and spewed it nonstop until the myth of "Democrats are tough on National Security" is now cared in stonge.

Well Done. Way to pretty much guarantee the Democrats will take the US Senate back this year. The ONE issue the Republicans had the edge on was National Security. Way to take a Democrat Senate Election year ploy and feverishly propagandize it. Way to mindlessly regurgitate the lies, disinformation and guilt by association being pumped out by Chucky Schumer and the Democrats PR Machine. Spare us the pseudo Conservatism. Actions speak louder then words. Let's not kid ourselves here. The Port Deal Hysteria had NOTHING to do with National Security, the facts or better ideas. It had to do with the Whine All The Time Choir being mad at Bush. Since they were mad, they keep searching for new things to have a hissy fit about. The latest thing was the Port Deal.

The opposition to the Port Deal had NOTHING to do with facts, reason or data. It had to do with an emotionally hysteric temper tantrum. The Whiners were simply desperate to "Get even with Bush" for spending or immigration or whatever; so they did NOT even bother to learn a single fact.

Only problem is this hissy fit is going to pretty much destroied the Republican Majority. The ONE thing the Republicans had going for them was the National Security Issue. The Whiners have all thrown that away by rabidly regurgitating the Democrats PR Talking points on the Ports. Well done. Way to actively work to elect Democrats. Congratulation. Rush Limbaugh was the Majority Maker, the Port Deal Hysterics will be remembered as the Minority Creators.

9 posted on 03/09/2006 1:09:47 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Way to actively work to elect Democrats. Congratulation. Rush Limbaugh was the Majority Maker,"

Rush? What does he have to do with it? Any thread with the word "Port" involved you get about a thousand responses. This means you have conservatives having heated, sincere, discussions about "something." And because this fact exists, someone did a poor job of explaining why we should give up port operations in six locations of senators who knew nothing about it. Now, who do you think that someone is? Rove? He said he didn't know. Bush? He said he didn't know. Well then, who is left? Is it ours? (noncompliant conservatives) What we can't discuss issues dear to us? We are un-enlightened because we disagree? Spare us.


14 posted on 03/09/2006 1:15:45 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: MNJohnnie
Glad to see you over here Johnnie.

You are a real trooper. Those wackos on the ports threads are congratulating themselves for supporting Dems while Bush is just quietly working away in the background. :)

16 posted on 03/09/2006 1:17:24 PM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: MNJohnnie

After the DPW firm pulls out of the port deal, conservatives who spent the last few weeks pretending to care about port security will go back to being completely ignorant and carefree on the topic.


18 posted on 03/09/2006 1:18:35 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Don't kid yourself. The Port Deal Hysterics just handed the Democrats the US Senate and probably the US House depending how the Texas case turns out.



I think you are wrong. We'll know in about 8 months. PR wise the administration screwed the pooch badly on this deal. I agree it's not what the anti DPW crowd says it is but they got the news out and made their case until that is what a large number of the public believed.

Until Nov. we have to move forward.


25 posted on 03/09/2006 1:26:08 PM PST by deport
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To: MNJohnnie
The Dems aren't going to win the Senate OR the House, Johnnie.......no matter how stupid the Republicans just acted.

Americans have short memories. Most of them weren't paying a bit of attention, and now that DPW has behaved like adults in response to the hysteria of the Congress, it will fade away.

There is NO question as to which party is stronger on national security, and in the individual races, that fact will be clear.

This is just a blip. It will be gone by November.

39 posted on 03/09/2006 1:46:07 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Don't kid yourself. The Port Deal Hysterics just handed the Democrats the US Senate and probably the US House depending how the Texas case turns out."

Let's see now. Almost 5 years without an attack on the nation, the Democrats on multiple occasions have called for us to cut and run from Iraq, called our soldiers Nazi's (Durbin), claimed the WOT was a "legal" problem to be handled by law enforcement (Kerry), have shown more concern for the civil rights of terrorists then the security of Americans (NSA leaks) and you claim that because of this one issue, which has know been stopped at the request of the UAE, that Americans suddenly believe the Democrats are the better choice to protect us?

How can anyone possibly be as eager to drink the liberal kool aid as you? You seem to think the public has forgotten all the libs have done to hurt the war effort but will NEVER forget the perfectly legal if not politically inept port deal.

49 posted on 03/09/2006 2:04:44 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: MNJohnnie
The Port Deal Hysterics just handed the Democrats the US Senate and probably the US House depending how the Texas case turns out.

I don't think so.

52 posted on 03/09/2006 2:09:12 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: MNJohnnie

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... The ONE thing the Republicans had going for them was the National Security ...
<<<

And that is what is so sad.


89 posted on 03/09/2006 4:09:33 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: MNJohnnie
I am just enjoying the fact that Dubai pulling out seems to have you top-of-building-with-rifle freaked-out.

It fills me with great serenity.

I bet you even lost money. WHOOO HOOO! :)

106 posted on 03/10/2006 6:07:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The ONE issue the Republicans had the edge on was National Security

Oh please, there are many issues for which the Republican *party* position is closer to the national position. Abortion, same sex marriage, gun control etc, etc. Not all Republicans are on board with on those issues, just as not (quite) all D's are hostile to basic American values. But if you aren't and you'll vote R unless you know the D candidate very well indeed.

Besides which, many Republicans, particularly in the Senate were on the "right" side of the issue as well.

President Bush wasn't, but Bush isn't' running for reelection, not in 2006 nor 2008.

113 posted on 03/10/2006 1:59:32 PM PST by El Gato
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