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Rape and Incest....Is Abortion Ever Okay?(Important legal perspective midway)
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Posted on 03/09/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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1 posted on 03/09/2006 11:45:06 AM PST by cpforlife.org
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IF PREGNANCIES FROM RAPE AND INCEST ARE UNUSUAL, WHY CAN'T PROLIFERS COMPROMISE ON THIS ONE ISSUE?

God,that's an easy one.If "rape victims" are the only ones who can get an abortion,then the incidence of "rape" in this country would jump to 10,000,000 a year....overnight.

3 posted on 03/09/2006 11:50:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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Rape and Incest....Is Abortion Ever Okay?

I can answer that quite simply with another question: Do the circumstances of conception somehow determine the status of the baby?

4 posted on 03/09/2006 11:50:47 AM PST by newgeezer (a fundamentalist, regarding the Holy Bible AND the Constitution. Words mean things.)
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Rape and Incest exceptions for abortion:
legal loopholes abortionists will use to create a new Roe

At this point there are NO considerations for legislation in this country that would prosecute the mother having an abortion.

Only the abortionists would be criminally liable.

Some people scream that it would be "EVIL" or worse to force the mother to carry a baby conceived in rape or incest.

Yet studies prove that abortion is the worst option.

Rape and incest were two of the main cases cited in the 60’s to push for LIBERALIZING OF LAWS against abortion. Those two straw men were responsible in great part for Roe and the abortion on demand holocaust.

The American Law Institute (ALI) proposed, in its 1959 model criminal code for all the states, a "reform" abortion law. The model bill, approved by ALI in 1962, declared that abortion should be permitted for the physical or mental health of the mother, for fetal abnormality, and for rape or incest.

While leaders of the American legal community were promoting radical changes in state abortion law, these cases generated sympathetic press coverage of the notion of "justifiable abortion."

Any legislation that allows abortion in cases of rape and incest could actually be worse than Roe v Wade because it would codify into law a massive loophole which pro-aborts would quickly attempt to widen with other health exceptions.

We would quickly be right back where we are today, but worse, by our own hands.

Much worse.

Instead of nine judges, We The People through our representatives would become like ancient Romans in the coliseum.…
Thumbs up for certain innocent ones—you’re safe and protected under law.
Thumbs down for other certain innocent ones—you may be lawfully killed at will.

Not the equal protection under the Constitution. The subjective and prejudicial protection We The People deem right and good.

We would be putting ourselves above the law—effectively and by legislative fiat declaring ourselves above God, deciding which innocent ones live and which innocent ones die.
5 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:00 AM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at www.KnightsForLife.org)
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It's the rapist that should be put to death, not the baby. The baby didn't do anything.
6 posted on 03/09/2006 11:53:21 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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7 posted on 03/09/2006 11:54:18 AM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at www.KnightsForLife.org)
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My parents have a friend, a retired school teacher, who was asked by her children to find her birth mother. She had never wanted to do this but her children wanted to know if there were any serious medical problems in the family that they should watch out for as they got older.

So the woman tracked down her mother in a nursing home somewhere and went and introduced herself. When the birth mother saw how lovely and smart and successful this woman was, she burst into tears of joy because the birth was the result of incest.

And the retired teacher was really freaked out by the experience - not by the fact that her biological parents were brother and sister, but by the fact that if this had happened in this day and age, she would have been aborted.

8 posted on 03/09/2006 11:57:32 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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No sane man would ever force his wife or daughter to carry the child of a rapist.

If the gov't decided on a population program to increase our numbers, and abducted and impregnated our wives and daughters, the revolution would be swift and deadly.

A rapist is even WORSE.


9 posted on 03/09/2006 11:59:47 AM PST by pissant
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God,that's an easy one.If "rape victims" are the only ones who can get an abortion,then the incidence of "rape" in this country would jump to 10,000,000 a year....overnight.

That would then lead to more additions to the Violence against Women Act and make it even more draconian than it already is

10 posted on 03/09/2006 12:01:03 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: pissant

Well said. I would never, EVER encourage a rape victim to have an abortion. But I couldn't look her in the eye and tell her she can't, either.


11 posted on 03/09/2006 12:03:12 PM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: cpforlife.org

Abortion is not about the mother's rights. It is about the child's rights. The "right to choose" ignores the child's right to choose to live.

I believe it was Reagan who said something about all those supporting abortion are already living.

A life is a life and it doesn't matter how it came about.


12 posted on 03/09/2006 12:07:01 PM PST by CodeToad
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"No sane man would ever force his wife or daughter to carry the child of a rapist. "


NO sane man considers murdering children.


13 posted on 03/09/2006 12:07:52 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Ace of Spades

How many rape victims become pregnant?is it rare or common?I am just curious


14 posted on 03/09/2006 12:08:15 PM PST by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: pissant

Maybe, in eons gone by. But now a rapist's intrusion can be fixed with the morning after pill and doesn't need to wait til the last month. It is an emotional argument way past reality. Incest, however, can be more problematic.. as it could go hidden until it becomes more complicated. Then it should be more left to responsible relatives and certainly not the State. The boggy about genetic damage is certainly in the realm of "wives tales", where, in reality, it takes many generations to produce genetic damage. The baby is a victim not the "problem" to be disposed of.


15 posted on 03/09/2006 12:08:59 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition...)
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To: CodeToad

I understand why you want to have this exception, but it doesn't make any sense. Either you think its murder or not, and if you don't then who cares why someone wants to?


16 posted on 03/09/2006 12:09:44 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: CodeToad

Yes indeed.


17 posted on 03/09/2006 12:10:07 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at www.KnightsForLife.org)
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To: CodeToad

Then have at it partner, you can raise Ted Bundy's kid.


18 posted on 03/09/2006 12:10:41 PM PST by pissant
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Either you think its murder or not, and if you don't then who cares why someone wants to?

Another factor is when life begins. We could use the same factors that determine when death occurs - no heartbeat, no brainwaves. After a heartbeat and brainwaves occur in a fetus, then abortion is not an option.

19 posted on 03/09/2006 12:13:31 PM PST by aimhigh
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It is still a child. Women should be protected from rape in the first place, but we have forgotten common sense on how to keep ourselves safe and defended. I'd be more pissed that a woman was raped in the first place. Of course, we just want the lazy way out of actually prrotecting ourselves and say we will just kill the kid instead.

Nice to know you would prefer to kill children.


20 posted on 03/09/2006 12:14:37 PM PST by CodeToad
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