[Gay State Conservative]

IF PREGNANCIES FROM RAPE AND INCEST ARE UNUSUAL, WHY CAN'T PROLIFERS COMPROMISE ON THIS ONE ISSUE?

God,that's an easy one.If "rape victims" are the only ones who can get an abortion,then the incidence of "rape" in this country would jump to 10,000,000 a year....overnight.

[newgeezer]

Rape and Incest....Is Abortion Ever Okay?

I can answer that quite simply with another question: Do the circumstances of conception somehow determine the status of the baby?

[cpforlife.org]

Rape and Incest exceptions for abortion:
legal loopholes abortionists will use to create a new Roe

At this point there are NO considerations for legislation in this country that would prosecute the mother having an abortion.

Only the abortionists would be criminally liable.

Some people scream that it would be "EVIL" or worse to force the mother to carry a baby conceived in rape or incest.

Yet studies prove that abortion is the worst option.

Rape and incest were two of the main cases cited in the 60’s to push for LIBERALIZING OF LAWS against abortion. Those two straw men were responsible in great part for Roe and the abortion on demand holocaust.

The American Law Institute (ALI) proposed, in its 1959 model criminal code for all the states, a "reform" abortion law. The model bill, approved by ALI in 1962, declared that abortion should be permitted for the physical or mental health of the mother, for fetal abnormality, and for rape or incest.

While leaders of the American legal community were promoting radical changes in state abortion law, these cases generated sympathetic press coverage of the notion of "justifiable abortion."

Any legislation that allows abortion in cases of rape and incest could actually be worse than Roe v Wade because it would codify into law a massive loophole which pro-aborts would quickly attempt to widen with other health exceptions.

We would quickly be right back where we are today, but worse, by our own hands.

Much worse.

Instead of nine judges, We The People through our representatives would become like ancient Romans in the coliseum.…
Thumbs up for certain innocent ones—you’re safe and protected under law.
Thumbs down for other certain innocent ones—you may be lawfully killed at will.

Not the equal protection under the Constitution. The subjective and prejudicial protection We The People deem right and good.

We would be putting ourselves above the law—effectively and by legislative fiat declaring ourselves above God, deciding which innocent ones live and which innocent ones die.

[tallhappy]

It's the rapist that should be put to death, not the baby. The baby didn't do anything.

[cpforlife.org]

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[meowmeow]

My parents have a friend, a retired school teacher, who was asked by her children to find her birth mother. She had never wanted to do this but her children wanted to know if there were any serious medical problems in the family that they should watch out for as they got older.

So the woman tracked down her mother in a nursing home somewhere and went and introduced herself. When the birth mother saw how lovely and smart and successful this woman was, she burst into tears of joy because the birth was the result of incest.

And the retired teacher was really freaked out by the experience - not by the fact that her biological parents were brother and sister, but by the fact that if this had happened in this day and age, she would have been aborted.

[pissant]

No sane man would ever force his wife or daughter to carry the child of a rapist.

If the gov't decided on a population program to increase our numbers, and abducted and impregnated our wives and daughters, the revolution would be swift and deadly.

A rapist is even WORSE.

[CodeToad]

Abortion is not about the mother's rights. It is about the child's rights. The "right to choose" ignores the child's right to choose to live.

I believe it was Reagan who said something about all those supporting abortion are already living.

A life is a life and it doesn't matter how it came about.

[HarmlessLovableFuzzball]

Something I was thinking about. What if it can be determined the baby will be born with severe genetic disorder / deformities..say blind, missing limbs, etc ?

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

More tripe from the pro-rape lobby.

[microgood]

Honesty requires us to say that it is unjust that a woman carry to term a child conceived through rape, but that it is a far greater injustice to kill the child. This is a rare situation in which injustice cannot be avoided; the best thing that can be done is to reduce it.The first injustice lasts for nine months of a life that can be relieved, both psychologically and financially. The second injustice ends a life, and there is no remedy for that.

The author of this obviously does not know how traumatic a rape can be. The article should be honest and admit that in some cases, forcing a rape victim to have a child is not saving a life but swapping one life for another. I have seen this happen in real life.

[gidget7]

"Studies and statistics consistently show that pregnancies due to rape and incest are rare. According to Guttmacher that 1% due to rape and incest is 14,000 babies per year. Therefore, abortion is not mainly used as a last resort."


Ok for one thing, these two instances should never be put into the same category. Rape is one category, incest another. However, both should leave the options to either adoption, or raising the child.

Anytime, any intervention in a womens natural biological functions are interrupted, prevented from occurring, or stopped unnaturally, there are far reaching medical and psychological problems.

Even these so called plan B (a term we should NEVER use) the morning after pill is dangerous. The pills, implants and such that prevent menstruation for 6 months or a year, are extremely dangerous for women's health. Abortion is no different.

Consider all the hormones that go into a pregnancy, the very ones the body activates once pregnancy begins. For these hormones to be cut off from the condition that activated them, is seriously dangerous for the health of the women.Medically and psychologically. Hormones out of whack cause all sorts of problems. These issues are separate from the risks entailed in any medical procedure.

[verity]

"Is Abortion Ever Okay? "

From a moral perspective no; from a legal perspective yes.

[MozarkDawg]

I wish someone would tell me why this is always classified as rape or incest ... the incest they're talking here IS rape.

[Beagle8U]

Murdering children is never an option!

[BlueNgold]

Fire away, my flame suit is on - I disagree.

While most of this is good information I find the case made regarding Rape/Incest overly simplistic.

I also find the argument that compromise on this one element would make a difference politically to be lacking. I have absolutely no doubt that if the pro-life groups gave in on this issue that the liberals and pro-abortion groups would fall back on something else. I think we all realize that they are hanging on to the rape/incest item strongly and loudly as means to an end, not because this is the only item about which they need resolution. If this were truly the only item in need of resolution I think it would have been addressed long ago.

[Nonstatist]

To say that this irreplaceable life can be destroyed for a crime its father committed

Crap. The woman didn't "choose" to be impregnated. We're beyond "being reponsible for your own actions" and into the land of "you will be a vessel for the pleasure of a cretinous rapist'. No thanks, this is not a very libertarian thing to force a person to do against their will.

[manwiththehands]

Great article. Bookmarked.

"The value of a person is not determined by the circumstances of his or her conception."

Some of the most lovable and loved children I know were "accidents", "handicapped" and originally "unwanted".

[cgk]

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[G Larry]

They're about 35 years late with this "Rape and Incest" arguement!
If that's what the "pro-aborts" really believed, then why were the laws never written to ONLY THOSE PARAMETERS?