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N.J. has last laugh: No. 5 in livability
Philly Inquirer ^ | Thu, Mar. 09, 2006 | Troy Graham

Posted on 03/09/2006 6:48:25 AM PST by Huck

Who's laughing now?

New Jersey, the state that spawned a thousand wise-guy bumper stickers and became the butt of a million late-night jokes, is actually a nice place to live.

The research group Morgan Quitno crunched the numbers this year and yesterday ranked New Jersey the fifth-most-livable state.

As for its neighbors?

Pennsylvania finished 30th, New York 32d.

"The people we talk to say they wouldn't live anywhere else, and I have to go along with that," said Mark Moran, a Bloomfield resident and one of the editors of Weird New Jersey magazine. "Whether it grows on you or people just don't know any better, I don't know."

New Jersey has long had a tragically poor reputation, earned by corrupt politicians, homicidal mobsters (real and fictional), surreal traffic patterns (who invented the jughandle, anyway?), toxic waste, and big hair.

The state's image has been so bad that even then-acting Gov. Richard Codey took the time last year to rollick in some of the more humorous entries in his public slogan contest.

Among the favorites: "New Jersey: You got a problem with that?" and "New Jersey: Most of our elected officials have not been indicted."

Morgan Quitno, a Kansas-based publisher of statistical data, based its rankings on 44 factors, and New Jersey shined in many.

The state moved up from eighth place a year ago. New Hampshire was judged the most livable state for the third year in a row.

The study determined that New Jersey has excellent schools; an educated, wealthy population; and relatively low rates of crime and poverty.

"We don't claim to be finding the most exciting place or the best place to take a vacation," said Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno. "It's just looking at very basic things. Other people can choose to look at other factors."

In other words, the things that make Jersey so Jersey didn't count against it. (Except for the toxic waste: Morgan found New Jersey had the most "hazardous waste sites on the National Priority List per 10,000 square miles.")

Moran also noted that if auto insurance and property tax rates had been considered, New Jersey's ranking would have sunk like a stone.

But in Morgan Quitno's world, livability is measured by factors such as student-teacher ratios and per-capita spending on the arts, and New Jersey excelled in both.

For Moran, there is no conflict in a state's combining livability with a tradition for the weird and absurd.

"You've got to take the good with the bad," he said. "The fact that it's such an odd and unique place... certainly makes it more livable for me."

Morgan visited the state last year and made a swing through Camden, the city his publishing company has famously labeled the most dangerous the last two years.

"We didn't advertise who we were," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
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To: Huck
The pizza thing is no surprise. I'm curious about hot dogs though. How tough is it to make a hot dog? Im a chili dog man, myself. I mean, it's a hot weiner on a bun. How do they get that wrong??

Okay, here's the thing. The Hot Grill in Clifton, and a couple of other places like Hyram's (either Fort Lee or Edgewater, I can't remember for certain), would actually deep fry the hotdogs -- that didn't make them greasy, as anyone who has deep fried a turkey knows. It just makes the skins quite crispy and imparts a unique flavor to the dog. Now here in the South, where I think they would deep fry a watermellon if you gave them a chance, they for some reason exclude the hot dog from deep frying consideration. I've never understood that.

The other thing the Hot Grill had going for it was the chili -- they guard the recipe jealously, and it is pretty amazing.

261 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:28 AM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: Huck
New Jersey, our most populous state per square mile....

Who wants to look around a corner and see a hundred people
looking back at you?

262 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:41 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Huck
What kind of loser lives somewhere that makes them miserable?

(Meekly raising my hand) I am a masochist, what can I say?

NEVER move some place simply because of the money. I made that mistake last year.

263 posted on 03/09/2006 9:14:44 AM PST by Clemenza (Dick Cheney is a big middle finger to the "other directed" Sheeple. My kind of guy!)
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To: Clemenza
Not that long ago, the residents of Staten Island were petitioning to have the boro become part of New Jersey.
264 posted on 03/09/2006 9:15:43 AM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Cagey

Staten Island just should be given to Italy. Or turned back into a dump. All of it.


265 posted on 03/09/2006 9:16:23 AM PST by Clemenza (Dick Cheney is a big middle finger to the "other directed" Sheeple. My kind of guy!)
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To: Clemenza
Staten Island just should be given to Italy

LOL!

266 posted on 03/09/2006 9:16:58 AM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: HostileTerritory
Here is the list of factors.

Seems like a pretty comprehensive list. Everyone will find something they think shouldn't be on the list, or believe something should be added, I suppose.

I enjoyed the three years I lived in Jersey City and Hoboken. NJ isn't my favorite state, but given the choice of living there or much of flyover counttry, I'd probably pick Jersey.

267 posted on 03/09/2006 9:17:41 AM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
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To: jjbrouwer

Maybe the Sopranoes set that style?

I don't know. I'm referencing what the men with vowels use to wear when I was a young kid. I never saw the shellsuits.


268 posted on 03/09/2006 9:19:25 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: gumboyaya
spend some time in Lafayette, Hot Springs or Meridian and tell me how bad it is.

I spent a week in Lafayette one day.

269 posted on 03/09/2006 9:19:54 AM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
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To: Cagey; Calpernia

Its really a shame. When you say the word "Italian" I think Marcello Mastroanni. To many out there, however, it means guys from Staten Island in shell suits who DON'T EVEN SPEAK ITALIAN and can't pronounce calamari correctly! Hey Guido, here's a hint, it aint pronounced "calamad." ;-)


270 posted on 03/09/2006 9:20:13 AM PST by Clemenza (Dick Cheney is a big middle finger to the "other directed" Sheeple. My kind of guy!)
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To: XRdsRev
Quote: "I'd rather have a Democrat living here who actually gives a damn about where they live than someone like you who is just filling up space and biding time until they get out."

Oh, no problem with that, you have plenty of Democrats living there and even more who claim to be Republicans. You live in RINO land baby and it seems to me that you would rather sit with the RINO's that allegedly "care" about where they live. There are more RINO's on our Republican Committee than I can count who allegedly "care." Its all about how they feel, not about actually standing up for the principles and hard decisions that would make our community a better place to live. So, caring is just accepting things as they are and telling yourself everything is alright and those who don't think so should just leave.

Perhaps you are the one who should move out. I would rather have someone who can objectively look at the state and try to change what is wrong with it than someone who seems to be so entrenched as to have lost objectivity and wants to deport the dissenters. Yah, that is the ticket. And still, your argument comes back to one basic fact. Love it or leave it. Sorry, not very persuasive.
271 posted on 03/09/2006 9:20:49 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Huck

You need to make a point of going to Rutt's Hut if you want to claim knowledge of Jersey Hot Dogs!


272 posted on 03/09/2006 9:20:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Huck

Every place has bad points and good points. Maybe in New Jersey we have more than our fair share of both. I don't begrudge anyone having pride in where they live. I have met people who loved places I would never chose to live but I didn't think they were crazy, I just thought that they were proud people and I could respect that even if I disagreed with their opinion.

Realistically, it doesn't matter what other people think about NJ. It is the folks that live here that will make it work or fail. Those who want to fight for their homes and way of life will stay, those that don't wish to do so, are free to leave. Like Washington and his army did 225 years ago, we may lose battles in NJ but we are going to try to win the war. Perhaps, it is a lost cause but I am not ready to tuck tail and leave NJ just yet. Many of my ancestors are buried here, and I love the state too much to give it up without a fight.


273 posted on 03/09/2006 9:21:19 AM PST by XRdsRev (The Democrat Party - Keeping Black folks on the "Plantation" since 1790)
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To: Huck

Here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965713/posts
Rutt's Hut Party and Paterson, NJ, Waterfall Trip--All Freepers Welcome (Rain or shine)

Get by to see those falls too.


274 posted on 03/09/2006 9:22:06 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cagey

LOL!!!!!!

A tad too large :))


275 posted on 03/09/2006 9:22:49 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cubreporter

ARGH!

Thank you very much for catching that.....
Sometimes my Southernese Kitchen English takes over :)


276 posted on 03/09/2006 9:23:07 AM PST by najida (Somedays you're the mud, other days the pig. Either way, you can sit in the sunshine and dry out ;))
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To: Huck
I hope you like pulled pork!

????

277 posted on 03/09/2006 9:26:09 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken. They say that's white meat too.)
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To: Huck

New Jersey is such an expensive place to live that a lot of their residents moved to PA and commute, driving up housing costs here in eastern PA.


278 posted on 03/09/2006 9:27:47 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: RogueIsland

They call em rippers.


279 posted on 03/09/2006 9:28:40 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: cubreporter

I hope that after a couple of years of corzine, we'll still have a positive outlook on the state.


280 posted on 03/09/2006 9:29:14 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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