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1 posted on 03/08/2006 4:02:59 PM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

It is about time! Heck, Mexifornia only has three new districts based on illegal alien count...ain't it just lovely???


2 posted on 03/08/2006 4:05:52 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: VU4G10

State lawmakers are trying to drum up support for a congressional proposal to count only United States citizens when drawing congressional districts.



Given that the illegal invaders ARE NOT F*CKING CITIZENS, this makes sense.


3 posted on 03/08/2006 4:06:14 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: VU4G10

Unbelieveable! How can this even be questioned? UGGGGG! This country is SERIOUSLY screwed up!


4 posted on 03/08/2006 4:06:30 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: VU4G10

20.000.000.00 Illegals are skewing our federal elections!!!


5 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:16 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10

"current anti-immigrant sentiment"


Anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. %$&^$$#@ it!


6 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:25 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: VU4G10

Miller has been pushing this for a while now.


9 posted on 03/08/2006 4:08:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: VU4G10
Changing the process would not only require amending the U.S. Constitution, a long road by itself, but also overcoming opposition from states that benefit from large immigrant populations.

Does the constitution in fact require illegal residents to be counted for purposes of representation? I find that hard to believe!

11 posted on 03/08/2006 4:09:24 PM PST by Menehune56
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... overcoming opposition from states that benefit from large immigrant illegal alien populations.

The American Friends Service Committee, which advocates on behalf of immigrants illegal aliens, criticized the proposal as a harsh reaction to current anti-immigrant illegal alien sentiment.

13 posted on 03/08/2006 4:21:17 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: HiJinx

ping


14 posted on 03/08/2006 4:22:41 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here. No one is as opposed to the illegal immigrants and I, but.... those states do get stuck with picking up one hellacious tab for education, health care, infrastructure and other costs related to those scum bags, so although I am not for empowering their states to get more seats, shouldn't they get something? Its not their fault our Country has bad border control. Ok, educate me now.


15 posted on 03/08/2006 4:23:48 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: VU4G10

Since they vote it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Bush's invitees.


18 posted on 03/08/2006 4:41:18 PM PST by Spirited
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To: VU4G10; JohnnyZ; fieldmarshaldj; Kuksool; Clintonfatigued; Dan from Michigan; Coop; Impy; ...

I don't think it is necessary to amend the Constitution in order to exclude illegal aliens from the Census count. The Constitution says that Representatives are apportioned among the states based on the number of persons in each state, and that the actual enumeration shall take place as provided by law. Now, no one has ever claimed that just because the Census is held as of April 1, 2000 that foreign tourists that happened to be at Disney World that day should be counted as residents of Florida. And the Census Bureau counts, for purposes of reapportionment, permanent U.S. residents that are temporarily outside the U.S. in military service or in the U.S. diplomatic corps, and they aren't "persons" physically "in such State" on Census Day. So Congress has the ability to limit the Census count to residents of the U.S. and to include permanent residents who are abroad on government service.

I think it would be perfectly reasonable and constitutional, and long overdue, for Congress to legislate that, for purposes of reapportionment, only permanent U.S. residents will be counted, which would exclude people in the U.S. with tourist visas or temporary visas (such as student visas, or if a guest-worker program is approved), or illegal aliens. U.S. citizens and permanent-resident aliens that are premanent residents of the U.S. would be the only persons deemed to count for purposes of reapportionment. Moreover, permanent U.S. residents who are temporarily abroad for any reason (including Mormon missionaries, who were Utah taxpayers but were unfairly excluded from the Census count and cost Utah a House seat after the 2000 Census) should count towards the reapportionment count. The law should also clarify that students will count as residents of their home state and city, not in the state and city where they are going to college.

The law could also say that the Census would still count illegal aliens and people on temporary non-tourist visas for other Census purposes, such as predicting how many people will need public transportation, how many children may need nutritional assistance, etc.; I don't have a problem with that, and it would allay fears that non-permanent resident aliens will become "invisible" to the government. But only people who reside in the U.S. both legally and permanently should count when we reapportion House seats among the states.


24 posted on 03/08/2006 5:11:14 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: VU4G10; Gelato; Ladycalif

ping...


26 posted on 03/08/2006 5:51:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("..Dubai..the bazaar of WMD components for the world’s rogue regimes.” -Congressman Duncan Hunter)
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To: VU4G10; EternalVigilance; AZRepublican; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

This is an idea that is decades overdue. Conservatives should push for it.


28 posted on 03/08/2006 8:56:55 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: VU4G10

In related news, California dropped to have the same number of US Representatives as Delaware.


30 posted on 03/08/2006 10:38:49 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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