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Proposal Would Subtract Illegal Aliens From Redistricting Count
AP ^ | 3/7/2006 | AP

Posted on 03/08/2006 4:02:54 PM PST by VU4G10

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- State lawmakers are trying to drum up support for a congressional proposal to count only United States citizens when drawing congressional districts.

Supporters including House Speaker Jon Husted say it's unfair that states with large populations of non-citizens get more congressional seats than Ohio.

The House Rules and Reference Committee approved a resolution Tuesday encouraging Congress to amend the Constitution to make the change.

Current Census predictions say Ohio will lose two congressional seats in 2010 if the state continues to grow at a slower rate than other states, according to population trends.

Meanwhile, states like Texas and Florida could add as many as three seats.

"We should not empower people that are not citizens of the United States to affect how our government is run and operated," said Husted, a Dayton-area Republican.

Changing the process would not only require amending the U.S. Constitution, a long road by itself, but also overcoming opposition from states that benefit from large immigrant populations.

U.S. Rep. Candace Miller, a Michigan Republican, said the issue was one of fairness.

"There is no other country or nation on the entire planet that had anything as convoluted as we are doing here," Miller said.

The American Friends Service Committee, which advocates on behalf of immigrants, criticized the proposal as a harsh reaction to current anti-immigrant sentiment.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aleins; aliens; illegal; immigrantlist
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1 posted on 03/08/2006 4:02:59 PM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

It is about time! Heck, Mexifornia only has three new districts based on illegal alien count...ain't it just lovely???


2 posted on 03/08/2006 4:05:52 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: VU4G10

State lawmakers are trying to drum up support for a congressional proposal to count only United States citizens when drawing congressional districts.



Given that the illegal invaders ARE NOT F*CKING CITIZENS, this makes sense.


3 posted on 03/08/2006 4:06:14 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: VU4G10

Unbelieveable! How can this even be questioned? UGGGGG! This country is SERIOUSLY screwed up!


4 posted on 03/08/2006 4:06:30 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: VU4G10

20.000.000.00 Illegals are skewing our federal elections!!!


5 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:16 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10

"current anti-immigrant sentiment"


Anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. %$&^$$#@ it!


6 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:25 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: trubluolyguy
Given that the illegal invaders ARE NOT F*CKING CITIZENS, this makes sense.

Should they maybe count 3/5?

7 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:33 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: trubluolyguy
"illegal invaders ARE NOT F*CKING CITIZENS"

Needs to be repeated over and over and over and over and over and over

8 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:44 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: VU4G10

Miller has been pushing this for a while now.


9 posted on 03/08/2006 4:08:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Needs to be repeated over and over and over and over and over and over




Ya know Johnnie, we disagree on so many other things, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling when we actually agree.


10 posted on 03/08/2006 4:09:07 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: VU4G10
Changing the process would not only require amending the U.S. Constitution, a long road by itself, but also overcoming opposition from states that benefit from large immigrant populations.

Does the constitution in fact require illegal residents to be counted for purposes of representation? I find that hard to believe!

11 posted on 03/08/2006 4:09:24 PM PST by Menehune56
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To: supercat

Should they maybe count 3/5?




I get the reference. Not funny. They should not count. Period.


12 posted on 03/08/2006 4:10:48 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: VU4G10
... overcoming opposition from states that benefit from large immigrant illegal alien populations.

The American Friends Service Committee, which advocates on behalf of immigrants illegal aliens, criticized the proposal as a harsh reaction to current anti-immigrant illegal alien sentiment.

13 posted on 03/08/2006 4:21:17 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: HiJinx

ping


14 posted on 03/08/2006 4:22:41 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: VU4G10

Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here. No one is as opposed to the illegal immigrants and I, but.... those states do get stuck with picking up one hellacious tab for education, health care, infrastructure and other costs related to those scum bags, so although I am not for empowering their states to get more seats, shouldn't they get something? Its not their fault our Country has bad border control. Ok, educate me now.


15 posted on 03/08/2006 4:23:48 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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I say for all illegal immigrants: no welfare, no drivers licenses, no jobs, no health care...they just have no standing in the US or in any state. And the sooner we come up with a way to enforce this, even if it is a biometric US ID card, the better. Also hurry up with that $5 billion double wall from the Pacific to the Gulf (pronounced Guff).
16 posted on 03/08/2006 4:36:54 PM PST by bennowens
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To: trubluolyguy
illegal invaders ARE NOT F*CKING CITIZENS"

Truth is truth no matter how much you may disagree with someone on other stuff. This is such an obvious no brainer, HOW can it even be up for discussion?

17 posted on 03/08/2006 4:37:11 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Why yes, yes it IS sarcasam!)
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To: VU4G10

Since they vote it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Bush's invitees.


18 posted on 03/08/2006 4:41:18 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Integrityrocks
so although I am not for empowering their states to get more seats, shouldn't they get something?

Yes, my FRiend, they should receive fleets of buses and divisions of National Guard troops, to alleviate them of their real problem.
19 posted on 03/08/2006 4:42:23 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Menehune56

The 14th Amendment, modifying similar language in Article I, section 2 of the Constitution states:

"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

Anyone living in the area, legally or illegally, citizen or non-citizen resident, under-18 or legal voter, is counted according to the Constitution. The wording is clear and the only way to change it is by amending the Constitution.

There are certainly at least a dozen states, and many federal legislators, who derive power and funding from the swollen populations in their states without having to worry about a voter rebellion. So it's not going to get changed. Sorry.


20 posted on 03/08/2006 4:45:42 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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