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This CO does give me pause, it appears that while he would bear arms he assisted in the saving of other's.

Some forget what a CO means, to me, it is one that will find other way's to serve while in the military.

Recent news, shows folks trying to use the CO status to get our of service all together and they volunteered.

I hope this doesn't give folks the wrong impression as a way out ... anything can be taken out of context.

1 posted on 03/07/2006 6:34:03 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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Be curious on your thoughts of this CO?


2 posted on 03/07/2006 6:36:27 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Pray for my beloved "No Longer Free State" as he is deployed to IRAQ.)
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I do respect genuine CO's. What I despise are those who sign up for military service under false pretenses and then wriggle out of the duty by offering politically convenient excuses to avoiding taking up arms on behalf of their country.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 03/07/2006 6:36:29 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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ping


5 posted on 03/07/2006 6:39:20 PM PST by EveningStar
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It sounds like it has the potential to be an excellent movie.


6 posted on 03/07/2006 6:41:20 PM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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The Quakers too had some CO fellers who were crazy-brave medics. I salute them.


8 posted on 03/07/2006 6:41:52 PM PST by Billthedrill
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I can't stomach the whole CO thing. Its a copout to avoid sharing the responsibilities of citizenship.


9 posted on 03/07/2006 6:45:00 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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I've met Desmond Doss several times. He is an American hero.

He did not object to serving in the war in any capacity, except that he did not want to kill anyone.

That was the official position of the Seventh Day Adventist church at the time of WWII, and he was being true to his religious beliefs while helping out any way he could.


10 posted on 03/07/2006 6:46:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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FYI


18 posted on 03/07/2006 6:53:35 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Pray for my beloved "No Longer Free State" as he is deployed to IRAQ.)
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Sergeant York was a conscientious objector before relenting and going into combat in WWI.


19 posted on 03/07/2006 6:55:12 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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I may be wrong, but I recall reading that battlefield medics in WWII had horrific casualty rates equaling or exceeding those of the regular infantryman. To have done what he did, exposing himself to Jap fire until he evac'd 75 men, on Okinawa, the bloodiest US battle of WWII...well, that took GUTS...he earned his Medal of Honor as surely as Audie Murphy earned his...


28 posted on 03/07/2006 7:12:20 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004...PROUD TO BE A BUSHBOT!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Does anyone know what "non combat achievement " means?I believe there were some Chaplains who received the CMH.Are they considered "combat achieevements".I am somewhat confused.Thanks..


35 posted on 03/07/2006 7:38:15 PM PST by Howe_D_Dewty
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Sounds like a good man & a good movie.


36 posted on 03/07/2006 7:40:13 PM PST by Feiny ( "Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps? " ~ Barney Fife)
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There is such a thing as, legitimately, a conscientious objector.

And there are unjust wars that no one should consent to be part of. And people of good will can disagree on these issues. Just think about who our next commander-in-chief might be, and you can imagine ways that our military might be used, that you could not in conscience be a part of.

But, to continue a thought from another thread, I tend to doubt the sincerity of a soldier who volunteered, and then "unvolunteered" when their unit was about to deploy. In that case, whether your change of heart is sincere or insincere, in the interest of unit discipline, prepare to serve your time behind bars.

One of the key elements of civil disobedience is that you prove your sincerity by doing your time in jail without complaint.


40 posted on 03/07/2006 8:06:58 PM PST by marron
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I knew 2 COs in Vietnam.

One arrived as a rifleman, and talked our commanding officer into letting him become a medic - sans M16. He had some medical training in his background and turned out to be brave and earned our respect. He was at one of our reunions a few years back.

He took one in the lung in an ambush. When he was dusted off, the chopper took ground fire and he was hit once more - in the elbow.

He did his job well and if that ain't enough for those who doubt or would ridicule his status, that's too damn bad.


41 posted on 03/07/2006 8:10:19 PM PST by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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I have no issue with real, live conscientious objectors. I do believe there are some genuine ones. If they agree to serve in some other fashion, I can accept that.

The ones that really piss me off are the ones like the pilot who became one after years of training and educational benefits. WTF did he think he was training for, to drop marshmallows on people?


45 posted on 03/07/2006 8:32:09 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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I trained with many SDA COs at Ft. Sam and served with them in RVN..

They were top notch students, and combat medics..

They were clean, sober, and very serious about serving their country..and taking care of the soldiers they were assigned to take care of...

When the grunts were pinned down they did not hesitate to go get the wounded...they did not complain and they did not shirk their duties..

As soldiers and combat medics go...the SDA COs were some of the best we had..

They also volunteered to be involved in some hush hush medical experiments performed.. up on 'The Hill' at Ft. Sam ..as 'guinea pigs'

This they did in lieu of going to RVN as Combat Medics..

imo
46 posted on 03/07/2006 8:34:16 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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Demond T. Doss American hero
47 posted on 03/07/2006 8:35:21 PM PST by the_daug
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These are good people that are doing it, so that shows promise. Even the COs are ultimately going to have to join in some way in the struggle against violent global islamic jihad. Just as this man joined, and greatly aided the struggle against global facism.


48 posted on 03/07/2006 8:41:28 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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I know a CO from the Viet Nam era. This guy was among several others that volunteered to be guinea pigs at Ft Dietrich, MD. He was taking injections to see what they would do.


49 posted on 03/07/2006 8:41:33 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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Let's see. Sgt York captured 100 or so Germans. Doss saved 75 or so Americans. Both at were big time risk of life in the process. Sounds like an easy MOH to me.

I haven't heard of this guy before. What a great story!


50 posted on 03/07/2006 8:43:52 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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