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New book details Barry Bonds' long steroid use
Reuters ^ | Adam Tanner

Posted on 03/07/2006 4:13:52 PM PST by indcons

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To: indcons

Yeah, I guess he put on a little weight. Ruth did it with beer and whiskey.

21 posted on 03/07/2006 5:17:47 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: indcons

If someone wants to alter their physicality to play a better game of sports, let them. It bothers me only in that others play by one set of rules, others cheat. Allow steroid use, blood doping, whatever someone wants within the law of states and the feds.


22 posted on 03/07/2006 5:18:14 PM PST by jeremiah (The biggest threat to Americas survival today, meth usage.)
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To: indcons
+ =
23 posted on 03/07/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: wireman

I assume the four are Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, and Palmeiro?


24 posted on 03/07/2006 5:27:20 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: KurtZ
The man's head grew two full sizes during one season. Which exercise makes your head grow?

Well in Bond's case I guess we can eliminate thinking really hard ...

25 posted on 03/07/2006 5:48:53 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: AZRepublican

..I had the 1960 Topps cards of Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford--those were the days...


26 posted on 03/07/2006 5:52:44 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: softwarecreator
Bullchit. Here is the true standing:

Top All-Time HR Leaders
Rank   Name HRs
1 Hank Aaron 755
2 Babe Ruth 714
3 Willie Mays 660
4 Frank Robinson 586
5 Harmon Killebrew 573
6 Rafael Palmeiro 569
7 Reggie Jackson 563

27 posted on 03/07/2006 5:58:01 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: indcons

Ditto


28 posted on 03/07/2006 5:59:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: wireman

:-)


29 posted on 03/07/2006 6:00:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: concentric circles
Let's see.....upper right, age 22.......lower right, age 42.

So no one here gained any weight in the same time frame?

I'm in no position to say "Yes, he juiced." or "No, he didn't." I'll admit the changes in his physical appearance are damning, but you can't automatically make the leap of faith. Bonds was brought up and was being tailored as a lead-off man. He was slim and fast and stole a lot of bases. Good eye for the ball. As he got older, he lost a step (as we all do), recognized this, and built himself into a power hitter to lengthen his career.

30 posted on 03/07/2006 6:08:10 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Go Panthers!.......)
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To: scrabblehack
I assume the four are Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, and Palmeiro?

You are correct sir!!!

31 posted on 03/07/2006 6:11:02 PM PST by wireman
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To: cincinnati65

If you REALLY believe that, then you must still think O.J. is hot on the trail of the real killers too!


32 posted on 03/07/2006 6:13:58 PM PST by wireman
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To: cincinnati65

Is that you Barry??


33 posted on 03/07/2006 6:19:07 PM PST by Babu
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To: wireman

Seriously. Pull up his career stats and you'll see the progression and transition from a basestealer to a power hitter. He topped 40 HR's three times before 1997 (before the alleged steroid abuse), and hit 37 in 112 games in 1994. The power has consistently developed over his career.


34 posted on 03/07/2006 6:35:16 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Go Panthers!.......)
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To: cincinnati65

And how many others on that home run list (non-juicers, that is) started out as base stealers and transitioned to home run hitters? Darn, Maury Wills should have made that transition....lol


35 posted on 03/07/2006 6:48:17 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: AZRepublican

Actually, didn't Rafael Palmeiro also test positive for steroids?


36 posted on 03/07/2006 6:56:07 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: AZRepublican

I had a Roger Maris baseball glove


37 posted on 03/07/2006 7:01:45 PM PST by dennisw (Muslim's biggest enemy is the founder of Islam, Muhammad. Muslims are victims of this conman-)
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To: stockstrader
Okay, from 1993-1997 (pre "juice" per the article), Barry Bonds hit 198 total home runs. From 1998-2002, he hit 239, an increase of 20.7%.

During the same time spans, the total number of home runs in the National League increase from 9,788 to 14,013, an increase of 43.2%!!!

Obviously, the WHOLE LEAGUE IS JUICING! LET'S BAN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE!!!!

Or maybe get some better pitching, or not be so quick to expand the league and dilute pitching, or not let the marquee pitchers get older as marquee hitters are reaching their primes.....

38 posted on 03/07/2006 7:27:51 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Go Panthers!.......)
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To: cincinnati65
Bonds admitted last year he used steroids ("nutrition supplements"), but said at the time he didn't know they were steroids.
39 posted on 03/07/2006 7:35:04 PM PST by KurtZ
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To: KurtZ
Bonds has never admitted to steroid use.

"Bonds testified that he had received and used clear and cream substances from his personal strength trainer, Greg Anderson, during the 2003 baseball season but was told they were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by The Chronicle." -- San Francisco Chronicle, 12/3/04

40 posted on 03/07/2006 7:49:21 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Go Panthers!.......)
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