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Ohio justices rule parents can sue for fetal test error ["wrongful birth"]
Associated Press ^ | Mar. 05, 2006 | By Andrew Welsh-Huggins

Posted on 03/07/2006 3:31:06 PM PST by Gelato

Ohio justices rule parents can sue for fetal test error

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Parents can sue a doctor if a genetic screening misses a severe or fatal condition that would have caused them to seek an abortion, a divided state Supreme Court ruled Friday.

The 4-3 decision limited such lawsuits to costs associated with a pregnancy and birth, saying such parents could not sue for pain-and-suffering damages or repayment of the costs of raising a disabled child.

The decision was a partial victory for a Kentucky couple who sued a Cincinnati obstetrics practice and hospital that provided genetic counseling and told them their fetus did not have a genetic disorder that the mother carried. But the 8-year-old boy has the disorder and can’t speak or crawl.

The finding overruled a lower-court decision that Richard and Helen Schirmer could sue for the costs of raising their disabled son.

Justice Maureen O’Connor, writing for the majority, noted that the Schirmers had indicated they would have obtained an abortion if they had received the correct diagnosis. As a result, she said they could not sue for costs above those of raising a child without a disability.

The case was the first time Ohio’s justices had issued a definitive ruling on a claim of “wrongful birth.” A handful of states allow such claims by parents seeking compensation for the financial burden of caring for a severely disabled child or the emotional trauma of watching a baby die shortly after birth.

Attorney Frank Woodside, who represents Children’s Hospital Medical Center in Cincinnati, said the decision was correct.

Doctors had no involvement in the actual defect, he said, and the law doesn’t allow damages if the disabling condition existed from the point of conception


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortion; designerbabies; disabled; dna; frivolouslawsuit; ruling; unwantedchild; wrongfulbirth
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To: madprof98

"This is why doctors today routinely advise abortion for women with any chance whatever of a problem pregnancy."



Very true. That and the fact that doctors today are businessmen first and they're afraid that if an "imperfect" baby is born under their supervision that liberals will seek other doctors more willing to advise them to abort.


21 posted on 03/07/2006 4:53:39 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: boop
Any parent is told when the test results are revealed, there is an accuracy level. They can always be wrong.
22 posted on 03/07/2006 4:54:16 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLDSEN out of our schools!!)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Nl doctors can't counter sue, but if they are smart or have smart lawyers, they will take it to the SC


23 posted on 03/07/2006 4:56:50 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLDSEN out of our schools!!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

"Since the mother knew that she carried a gene for a horrible condition, adoption may have been the better decision for this couple."

I agree, how horribly selfish to KNOW this is a possibility, yet choose to conceive human beings and figure you'll just get rid of the defective ones until the "keeper" comes along. Disgusting.


24 posted on 03/07/2006 8:48:30 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: Gelato

Unreal.


25 posted on 03/07/2006 10:09:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("..Dubai..the bazaar of WMD components for the world’s rogue regimes.” -Congressman Duncan Hunter)
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To: Gelato

"Parents can sue a doctor if a genetic screening misses a severe or fatal condition that would have caused them to seek an abortion, a divided state Supreme Court ruled Friday. The 4-3 decision limited such lawsuits to costs associated with a pregnancy and birth, saying such parents could not sue for pain-and-suffering damages or repayment of the costs of raising a disabled child."

This makes zero sense.

If the doctor is liable, he's liable for ALL of the consequential damages.

If he's NOT liable because an abortion would have resulted, then he shouldn't be liable for ANY of the damages!

This is another Sandra Day O'Dip$#!# opinion. Has she got relatives in Ohio?


26 posted on 03/07/2006 11:36:40 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Bump to everything you said (including doing the same thing with our child's tests)!


27 posted on 03/07/2006 11:41:33 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
I believe there are those who would try to sue God if they could.

Heck, someone sued Satan once....

28 posted on 03/08/2006 4:56:31 AM PST by Vesuvian ((insert something witty here))
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To: Gelato
Justice Maureen O’Connor, writing for the majority, noted that the Schirmers had indicated they would have obtained an abortion if they had received the correct diagnosis.

Artificial means of birth control would not be sold if pregancy was not considered to be a health disorder, at least by some people. Consider that, in one room of a hospital, a doctor is delivering a baby, while in another room of the same hospital, another doctor is dismembering a baby in its mother's womb.

As a society, we hold contradictory views regarding pregnancy as a state of health, which is to say, we hold contradictory views regarding the value of human life. The idea of "wrongful death" logically follows from the idea that pregnancy is a health disorder.

29 posted on 03/08/2006 5:13:29 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Gelato
The parents wish they had killed their son while they had the chance; while it was "legal." They blame the doctors because their unwanted son lives.

The next logical step is to kill the child now, since the court obviously believes that the child would have been better off dead. They're only lacking the guts. But give them time.

30 posted on 03/08/2006 5:16:28 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Vesuvian

Heck, someone sued Satan once....


Well, I'm sure he deserved it.


31 posted on 03/08/2006 5:29:42 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Gelato
Maybe some of our big-tent, pro-choice "Republican" friends can join this thread and expound on how the slippery slope does not exist.

My sister-in-law recently was told that her unborn child had a marker for Downs syndrome, which turned out to be false. I wonder how many babies are killed by false positives?

Doctors had no involvement in the actual defect, he said, and the law doesn’t allow damages if the disabling condition existed from the point of conception.

But wait! I thought nothing but a worthless clump of cells existed at the point of conception, certainly not a person with a "disabling condition".

32 posted on 03/08/2006 5:41:18 AM PST by garv
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To: Gelato

Good! I have seen this take place and put the girls in precarious situations but the girls chose to keep their child. Guess what!? The babies were fine and not one thing wrong with them.

If they had listened to these doctors and their test they would have aborted a perfectly healthy baby.


33 posted on 03/08/2006 8:21:23 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Aquinasfan
The next logical step is to kill the child now, since the court obviously believes that the child would have been better off dead. They're only lacking the guts. But give them time.

Hard to believe, but the parents are indeed saying that for the severely disabled, death is preferable to life. Short distance to the "he would WANT to die" argument used to murder Terri Schiavo.

God will judge our nation on how we treat "the least of these."

34 posted on 03/08/2006 10:25:06 AM PST by Gelato
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To: AuH2ORepublican
"The fact that the Schirmers would have aborted is evidence *for*, not against, compensating them for the cost of raising their child."

That caught my eye right away. But, I differ with your conclusion.

The Shirmers were prepared to pay for raising a normal child. They would have aborted an abnormal child. Therefore, they should only be compensated for the difference in raising an abnormal child over a normal one.

35 posted on 03/08/2006 10:26:52 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

But they were suing over the incorrect reading of the screening test. Had the doctor read the test correctly, the Schirmers would have aborted their baby and been out only the cost of the abortion. By reading the test incorrectly, the Schirmers continued with the pregnancy, and thus had to pay for prenatal care for the remaining months, the cost of childbirth, and the cost of raising and caring for a disabled child for the rest of his life. If the judges assign fault to the doctor for reading the test results incorrectly, then compensation would be the costs that were born by the Schirmers after continuing with the pregnancy minus what an abortion would have cost. Such result would be immoral and morbid, but it would be the logical conclusion of assigning fault to the doctor in a nation in which abortion is legal.

I think the only scenario in which the Schirmers would be compensated for the cost difference between raising a diabled child and raising a normal child would be if the doctor didn't merely read the test results incorrectly, but somehow caused the baby's disability, and if the Schirmers nevertheless kept their baby. In such case, the doctor would be the cause of the Schirmers having to pay extra to raise and care for their child, but would only be liable for the extra cost, not the total cost, since the Schirmers would have had to paid for raising their baby anyhow had the doctor not screwed up. Unfortunately, courts such as the one that ruled that the doctor was liable for not warning the parents that their child was "imperfect" would probably say that the parents in this new hypothetical could have aborted their baby when they found out that the doctor had caused the disability, and by not doing so they waived their right to compensation for any amount over and above the cost of an abortion. When the law allows abortion as a "choice," it will eventually be turned into a "duty." People who say they are "pro-choice" on abortion should keep that in mind.


36 posted on 03/08/2006 10:45:13 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
If a woman who doesn't want a child visits her doctor and tests indicate that she isn't pregnant, and she finds out (too late for a safe abortion or whatever) that she is, then I can see where some would say that the doctor is liable for all costs of raising the child. Even a healthy child. (Not that I agree.)

Or if she has her tubes tied, gets pregnant and carries the baby to term unknowingly (there are stories like that), then I can see where some would say the doctor is liable.(Again, not that I agree.)

But the argument can be made in the above case that the couple chose to have a child, and to abort only if the child was not normal. The couple was prepared to pay the cost of raising a normal child, had the test result been correct. The doctor should pay the difference.

That said, I do see your point. If, for example, the parents only had enough money to raise one child, so they therefore wanted that child to be normal, fine. Being forced to pay for raising an abnormal child precludes that possibility.

But the whole discussion is obscene. If there's a potential problem, adopt. If you choose to get pregnant, then you take what God gives you. Negligence is unacceptable, but doctors do make mistakes -- choose one wisely.

Obstetricians are being sued out of existence.

37 posted on 03/08/2006 11:21:38 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Gelato
It would seem that this humped-up court is holding doctors responsible for flaws in the conception and gestation processes of the child.

If there ever was a "miscarriage" of justice......

38 posted on 03/08/2006 11:28:30 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: robertpaulsen

"But the whole discussion is obscene. If there's a potential problem, adopt. If you choose to get pregnant, then you take what God gives you. Negligence is unacceptable, but doctors do make mistakes -- choose one wisely.

Obstetricians are being sued out of existence."



I agree 100% with everything you said there. We need tort reform *now*.


39 posted on 03/08/2006 11:40:10 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: beezdotcom
Do I really need a sarcasm tag?

Yes you do.

Over seas there have been lawsuits by disabled folks against both the doctors and parents for them being born....so assume nothing.

40 posted on 03/08/2006 1:23:15 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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