Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)

WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

[SirLinksalot]

Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll

Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom

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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.

A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.

About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.

Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).

Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."

The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.

The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.

Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.

As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."

[AllGoodMen]

"What evidence, other than the bible, supports the bibical account of creation "after their own kind"? What is a "kind" anyway? What hypothetical observation would disprove the idea that species were created "after their own kind"?


I don't think man is evolving into a new species and I don't think he evolved from one. I believe man was created and not evolved. Evoultion is its own belief system and it required faith in that system to believe it. I don't believe in evolution.

[Right Wing Professor]

Then WHERE on FR is it??

With PH's home page, presumably.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Most evolutionists assume that life on earth originated on earth,...

I doubt any of them would be silly enough to say that the earth is the center of the universe.

I love it when you contradict yourself!

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They will agree that it's quite possible and even likely that life has also orginated on other planets,...

Extraterrestrial is not exclusive to other planets...

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...how can you state that the assumption that earth life originated here is fallacious? That would require knowledge on your part that life on earth originated elsewhere.

Are you saying that scientists think that the earth is unaffected by anything outside its atmosphere? Because that is certainly a fallacious statement.

“There you go again.” (R.R.)

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I hope you're not suggesting that scientists should entertain any prospect, no matter how bizarre.

You are a flat universe theorist?

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...science deals only with what can be examined.

We cannot examine many places on this planet or the deep interior of the sun, yet there is millions of pages of science that theorize about them...

[ahayes]

Well I have to thank you for providing me with evidence for the existence of an alternate reality. In my reality my statements were not contradictory, but in your reality they appear to have been. . . One point I'll give you is that is it possible life might originate on other moons as well as planets, but that pretty much is the extent of the possibly habitable bodies.

We can theorize scientifically about the center of the sun because the observable properties of the sun provide us with evidence that allows limitation of the possibilities. For instance, it most likely is not water ice!

[js1138]

But I doubt if you are interested in truth. You'd rather run your mouth.

What brought THIS on??p>You running your mouth instead of looking for the truth. You asked why your post was deleted. I told you, and rather than asking the moderator to confirm or deny my answer, you ran your mouth.

[Elsie]

;^)

[Right Wing Professor]

We cannot examine many places on this planet or the deep interior of the sun,

Yes we can.

Where do solar neutrinos come from?

[Elsie]

From my #850 -->

 

Explicit?  Where?  Below is what I could find from FR's homepage.  

 

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You running your mouth instead of looking for the truth.

Sorry, but I looked for it BEFORE ...

To: js1138

Somewhere there's a list of sites you can't post material from. DU is on the list.

Where, pray tell?

I looked, but did not find it.

852 posted on 03/09/2006 4:28:56 PM CST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)

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...I posted the ONLY stuff I could find that might pertain to it's removal.

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I told you, and rather than asking the moderator to confirm or deny my answer, you ran your mouth.

You may have TOLD me, but you offered NO proof as to WHERE to find it.

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I really don't see what is the big problem that we are having about this subject.

 

[Elsie]

Where do solar neutrinos come from?

Uh...

It's not the MOON is it????

Mercury?

Saturn?

BMW?

[js1138]

At what point did you ask a moderator why your post was pulled? At what point did you ask a moderator if posts from DU are forbidden?

[from occupied ga]

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

A new poll showed that 69% of americans believe sun revolves around the earth and demand that this theory be taught in classrooms - makes as much sense to me.

[Right Wing Professor]

The point is they come from the core of the sun, where all the kewl nuclear reactions are happening. So it's not true to say we can't study the core of the sun.

[RadioAstronomer]

http://shef.ac.uk/physics/people/vdhillon/teaching/phy213/phy213_interiors.html

[RadioAstronomer]

A new poll showed that 69% of americans believe sun revolves around the earth and demand that this theory be taught in classrooms - makes as much sense to me.

I hear ya! ID is just modern day snake oil IMHO.

[FOG724]

bttt

[Elsie]

At what point did you ask a moderator why your post was pulled? At what point did you ask a moderator if posts from DU are forbidden?

Nowhere, as I was not in communication with them.

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At what point did you post WHERE this info could be found in FRland?

[js1138]

Post number 910, among other places.

[Elsie]

 

To: Elsie

The most interesting thing about you DU post -- aside from the fact that it violates Jim Robinson's explicit policy of not posting from DU -- is that these threads attract a lot of readership from the political opposition.

If they don't watch out they will catch conservative cooties.

815 posted on 03/09/2006 12:42:52 PM CST by js1138

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explicit

One entry found for explicit. Main Entry: ex·plic·it
Pronunciation: ik-'spli-s&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: French or Medieval Latin; French explicite, from Medieval Latin explicitus, from Latin, past participle of explicare
1 a : fully revealed or expressed without vagueness, implication, or ambiguity : leaving no question as to meaning or intent <explicit instructions> b : open in the depiction of nudity or sexuality <explicit books and films>
2 : fully developed or formulated <an explicit plan> <an explicit notion of our objective>
3 : unambiguous in expression <was very explicit on how we are to behave>
4 of a mathematical function : defined by an expression containing only independent variables -- compare IMPLICIT 1c
- ex·plic·it·ly adverb
- ex·plic·it·ness noun
synonyms EXPLICIT, DEFINITE, EXPRESS, SPECIFIC mean perfectly clear in meaning. EXPLICIT implies such verbal plainness and distinctness that there is no need for inference and no room for difficulty in understanding <explicit instructions>. DEFINITE stresses precise, clear statement or arrangement that leaves no doubt or indecision <the law is definite in such cases>. EXPRESS implies both explicitness and direct and positive utterance <her express wishes>. SPECIFIC applies to what is precisely and fully treated in detail or particular <two specific criticisms>.

[js1138]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/616045/posts

It took thirty seconds to find this.

[Elsie]

Thank you!

I didn't know that I had to search past POSTS to find something that should be acessible from the HOME page.

(Now then; let's get with the picture FROM that 3 YO thread...)

And QUIT trashing each other. You know who you are. Knock it off! Way too many flamewars and feuds going on.

;^)