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Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)
WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

Posted on 03/07/2006 2:34:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot

Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll

Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom

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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.

A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.

About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.

Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).

Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."

The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.

The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.

Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.

As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; crevolist; darwin; immaculateconception; poll; scienceeducation; smacked; wingnutdoozy
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You want ID to be considered scientific before it makes any scientific, testable claims.

[I do]??? where did I post anything even close to that?

Just because there is no evidence for ID now doesn't mean there ever (never?) will be

We are somewhat in agreement here... I'm sure you would agree that just because we haven't found any evidence, doesn't mean there is none.

You want science to change its rules and allow ID in before it makes any testable claims.

I do???? (to avoid spam goto [I do])
701 posted on 03/08/2006 4:22:35 PM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: darbymcgill

Argument from ignorance--2, anti-evolutionist creationists--0.


702 posted on 03/08/2006 4:22:53 PM PST by ahayes
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To: darbymcgill

The statement "there is no evidence of X" implicitly means "currently no evidence has been found for X", not "there is and will never be any evidence of X"


703 posted on 03/08/2006 4:26:32 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: SirLinksalot; All

Interesting that the youngest people polled seemed to be the strongest supporters of teaching more than evolution.

They also tend to be the most pro-life in those polls.

Personally, I lean toward evolution after years in the creationist camp, but I still favor a debate on this and feel that the scientific evidence needs to be presented on both sides.


704 posted on 03/08/2006 4:34:52 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: bobdsmith
The statement "there is no evidence of X" implicitly means "currently no evidence has been found for X", not "there is and will never be any evidence of X"

I agree that one might easily "infer" from the statement that none has been found over none exists, but without further clarification, only the author knows what was implied.
705 posted on 03/08/2006 4:36:17 PM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: Elsie

Yucca and yucca moth.


706 posted on 03/08/2006 4:39:55 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: ahayes

Those who control the meaning of words, by definition, define the arguement....


707 posted on 03/08/2006 4:40:25 PM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: Ichneumon
  Posted by Sir Francis Dashwood to manwiththehands
On News/Activism ^ 03/08/2006 2:24:11 AM PST · 440 of 707 ^

How do you feel about teaching the idea that life may have originated from outer space?

They already do... the Big Bang theory... another immaculate conception...

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708 posted on 03/08/2006 5:05:37 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: rwfromkansas
Interesting that the youngest people polled seemed to be the strongest supporters of teaching more than evolution. They also tend to be the most pro-life in those polls.

And how do they rank in educational attainments?

709 posted on 03/08/2006 5:27:17 PM PST by balrog666 (Come and see my new profile! Now with corrected spelling!)
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To: SampleMan
Is it really rational scientific thought process to begin the conversation by proclaiming the other party "false"?

I am not declaring all of the other party "false". I am simply making reference to known, often repeated, falsehoods as told by creationists.
710 posted on 03/08/2006 5:28:46 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Barney Gumble
it's not good to leave out a belief that is held by 1/2 of the population.

The percentage of the US population that believes a proposition has no bearing on that proposition's scientific validity.
711 posted on 03/08/2006 5:31:10 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

You are not being politically correct. You should say differently truthful.


712 posted on 03/08/2006 5:32:15 PM PST by js1138
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To: balrog666

The people in the age group are at least 18.


713 posted on 03/08/2006 5:38:48 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Hill of Tara

The evolutionists have no more proof human life evolved from other Terran life than those who would say humans came from outer space...

In fact, evolutionists have to admit human life came from outer space... the Big Bang theory... just another immaculate conception...

see #708...


714 posted on 03/08/2006 5:43:35 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
In fact, evolutionists have to admit human life came from outer space... the Big Bang theory.

You are mistaken regarding the scope of the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution is not in any way related to the Big Bang theory. Falsifying one would have no implications for the other.
715 posted on 03/08/2006 5:45:14 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Hey, where have you been. I thought you found out you were wrong about the rapture and were gone and I was wrong about post mil and I was left.


716 posted on 03/08/2006 5:49:25 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: rwfromkansas

Oh, you mean young whippersnappers with no knowledge of the real world. BFD.


717 posted on 03/08/2006 5:49:49 PM PST by balrog666 (Come and see my new profile! Now with corrected spelling!)
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To: Dimensio
The theory of evolution is not in any way related to the Big Bang theory.

The “origin of species” is rooted in the idea of a singularity: the mechanics of the DNA molecule. All species of Terran life has it.

Like the singularity of the “Big Bang” theory, these two are categorically inseparable as immaculate conceptions. It only takes a mere application of logic.

The evolutionists have no more proof human life evolved from other Terran life than those who would say humans came from extraterrestrials...

718 posted on 03/08/2006 5:52:15 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The evolutionists have no more proof human life evolved from other Terran life than those who would say humans came from extraterrestrials...

Proof, no. Science does not deal in proof (try some good Irish whiskey).

Evidence though? Actually there is a lot of evidence showing evolution from earlier forms.

But I wouldn't want to bet the rent money on extraterrestrials.

719 posted on 03/08/2006 5:58:44 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The “origin of species” is rooted in the idea of a singularity: the mechanics of the DNA molecule. All species of Terran life has it.

This is true, however once past that singularity, nothing has relevance to the theory of evolution. For example, how the first organism with DNA came to exist is not part of the theory of evolution.

Like the singularity of the “Big Bang” theory, these two are categorically inseparable as immaculate conceptions. It only takes a mere application of logic.

I am afraid that you are mistaken. The theory of evolution implies that all organisms arose from descent from a common ancestory. Beyond that, it can imply nothing more. It does not imply that all matter in the universe originated from a "singularity".
720 posted on 03/08/2006 5:59:03 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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