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Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)
WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

Posted on 03/07/2006 2:34:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot

Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll

Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom

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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.

A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.

About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.

Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).

Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."

The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.

The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.

Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.

As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; crevolist; darwin; immaculateconception; poll; scienceeducation; smacked; wingnutdoozy
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To: Hill of Tara
On a previous evolution thread, I compiled a few challenges to evolution. What's wrong with using them again, especially when my post was directed not to you, busybody, but to another poster whom I had never shared those points with before.

I believe that the objection is over providing information to which an extensive rebuttal has been written, in spite of the fact that you never provided a response to the rebuttal.
261 posted on 03/07/2006 6:19:25 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: SirLinksalot

The 21% will probably win.


262 posted on 03/07/2006 6:20:01 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Hill of Tara
On a previous evolution thread, I compiled a few challenges to evolution. What's wrong with using them again, especially when my post was directed not to you, busybody, but to another poster whom I had never shared those points with before.

The problem is your complaints were addressed on the other thread, yet you posted them again as if no one had been able to come up with a reasonable answer to them.

Trust me, we've all seen those same supposed challenges time and again. Nothing new under the sun. . .

263 posted on 03/07/2006 6:20:15 PM PST by ahayes
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To: Dimensio

sorry about that, I meant to provide a response, I must have forgotten to.


264 posted on 03/07/2006 6:20:19 PM PST by Hill of Tara ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: Hill of Tara

"true, but some things are more certain than others, for example, the process of how the digestive system works, which is pretty much known as fact and not a theory."

Um, no.


265 posted on 03/07/2006 6:21:47 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Dimensio

Most scientists don't care one way or the other about Darwinian evolution; it's of more interest to sociologists. Somebody could take a poll of historians, psychologists and political scientists, but that is not how science is done. Repeal the law of evolution, it won't make the slightest difference, but it would possibly please those who also don't like algebra.


266 posted on 03/07/2006 6:23:43 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: salexander
"Near as I can tell from observation, evolution is not about science at all; it's about lifestyles and the protection of lifestyles."

The scientific community, precisely like the legal community, depends on defending/maintaining/trusting in, a system.

However, ask a lawyer and he or she will admit that justice is secondary to upholding that system.
Ask a scientist, and he or she will most likely state that the system 'proves' the most widely accepted theories within its umbrella.

Same dependence, same central theme ... except that one is engaged in finding means to redefine the core and the other is engaged in defending the findings of those who published previously.

267 posted on 03/07/2006 6:24:02 PM PST by norton
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To: ml1954
" No it doesn't. The TOE does not address the origin of life. And I'm sure you've had that pointed out to you before."

Don't bother. He regurgitates the same exact line on every crevo thread he posts on. He won't engage your point.
268 posted on 03/07/2006 6:24:11 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: SirLinksalot

What about pre-Darwinian evolution, can we keep that?


269 posted on 03/07/2006 6:25:03 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale
Most scientists don't care one way or the other about Darwinian evolution; it's of more interest to sociologists.

Huh?

270 posted on 03/07/2006 6:26:25 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: tallhappy

" No one likes the zealot atheist evolutionites because they are obnoxious and overbearing and now teaming up with the ACLU."

But you're not a creationist... lol


271 posted on 03/07/2006 6:27:47 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor

For example, it was never even mentioned in my physics classes.


272 posted on 03/07/2006 6:27:57 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: All

Actually sociologists largly ignore evolution in human beings and blame differences between groups of people as being "learned from society".


273 posted on 03/07/2006 6:28:40 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: norton
Two opposing view points, each with strong support and deep roots, should be allowed to face one another - not be dictated by courts or by a stone wall.

Not even a hint of following the scientific method in your post. Science provides a method for deciding between or among competing theories.

However, most of the discussion on these threads has centered around whether to permit the teaching of ID in science classes. ID is not a scientific theory, and does not qualify.

Actually, the argument you have laid out would be just as valid for promoting the teaching evolution in churches. Is that what you are advocating?

274 posted on 03/07/2006 6:29:43 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Why not?


275 posted on 03/07/2006 6:29:50 PM PST by Hill of Tara ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: RightWhale
For example, it was never even mentioned in my physics classes. Ofcourse its not mentioned in physics courses!
276 posted on 03/07/2006 6:30:20 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: RightWhale
For example, it was never even mentioned in my physics classes.

You're kidding me. They didn't try to teach you biology in physics class? What kind of school was this?

277 posted on 03/07/2006 6:30:51 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Coyoteman
Would you care to guess the percentage of their annual budget that the Discovery Institute spends on public relations vs. actually doing science?

Would that really be a guess?

278 posted on 03/07/2006 6:33:04 PM PST by balrog666 (Come and see my new profile! Now with corrected spelling!)
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To: RHINO369

I was told physics was a science, so if scientists are to care about this issue wouldn't the profs have brought it up at some point? It wasn't on the senior comprehensive test either.


279 posted on 03/07/2006 6:33:08 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: balrog666

OK, so how many Americans support teaching Earth, Air, Fire, and Water as the four elements over teaching the periodic table?


280 posted on 03/07/2006 6:34:15 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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