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Please consider the following list of beliefs and end time scenarios and then post which of them would apply to you, or if you believe something else - then please give a short description of what you believe.


1 posted on 03/06/2006 11:29:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Amillennialism


kind regards


51 posted on 03/07/2006 12:50:37 AM PST by vimto ("Born and educated in this country, I glory in the name of Briton." King George III)
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Leela: So how did the universe begin?

Nibbler: Garble garble garble, garble garble garble!

Leela: So every major religion is wrong!

Personally I like to think those who have earned it will spend eternity in Aslan's Country. : )

52 posted on 03/07/2006 1:27:01 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
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Put me down for A-Mil.


53 posted on 03/07/2006 2:08:32 AM PST by PAR35
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Dispensational

Pre-trib rapture

literal 7 year reign of the anti-Christ

literal 1000 year reign of Christ in the Millenium


54 posted on 03/07/2006 2:38:31 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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Preterism for me, Revelations is history not prophecy.


55 posted on 03/07/2006 2:39:00 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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I think my head would explode if I tried to wrap myself around this stuff.


56 posted on 03/07/2006 2:43:23 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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I will exceed my authority and take 3 choices.

#1 (with a bullet) - Dispy Pre-Mil, Pre-Trib.

#2 Amil

#3 Post Mil


58 posted on 03/07/2006 2:44:36 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
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Postmillennialism:
(Also known as "Christian Reconstruction", "Kingdom Now Theology" and "Dominion Theology.") These believe “that the kingdom of God is now being extended in the world through the preaching of the gospel and the saving work of the Holy Spirit, that the world eventually is to be Christianized, and that the return of Christ will occur at the close of a long period of righteousness and peace, commonly called the millennium.”

Preterism:
Belief that the events prophesized in the New Testament have already happened. The great war of Armageddon in the book of Revelation occurred in the late 60's and early 70's CE when the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, many Jews were killed and the rest were driven from Palestine.

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These summaries are inadequate. There are degrees of Preterism, arguing that most (but not all) of Revelation (which was definitly mostly future when it was written) is now history rather than future events, and though the most vocal modern advocates of the Postmillenial view have indeed been the "reconstruction/dominionists", it has a long and prominent representation in earlier generations (e.g., William Carey), and other non-reconstructionist reformed representatives in the present.

One can find lots of pious billingsgate about these positions on pre-millenialist websites especially the pre-trib rapturists, but since their postion has NO history before about 1830, they are in a poor position to argue, especially since all the seminaries they founded in the past century to propagate their position have (sometimes quietly, sometimes more publicly) abandoned it.

For better summaries, see
http://www.biblelighthouse.com/eschatology/esc-postmillenial.htm
http://www.biblelighthouse.com/eschatology/esc-preterist.htm
and for some further information on the influence of the position, see
http://www.contra-mundum.org/schirrmacher/careypostmil.html


What do I think? Obviously, I'm sympathetic to the post-mil/partial preterist view, but still have a lot of unanswered questions. Details about "The End" are not the most important issue, though admittedly important. Serving in the areas that are more clearly lighted is pre-requisite for making further progress in these murkier matters, so that's where to devote limited resources.


60 posted on 03/07/2006 3:29:20 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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hello, refugee from crosswalk!

Count me as post-mil, with orthodox Christian preterism -- the resurrection of the body is still part of the creed, the faith which we must keep "wholly and entire."


62 posted on 03/07/2006 3:48:52 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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Pre-trib rapture.


63 posted on 03/07/2006 4:12:23 AM PST by carlr
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Good morning.
Pre Trib for me.


64 posted on 03/07/2006 4:28:00 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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This was going to be the day I contemplated "near death experiences."

Pre

65 posted on 03/07/2006 4:29:11 AM PST by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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I haven't come to a conclusion about this subject, but I probably lean toward Dispensationalism....

I do believe that most people will not realize what is taking place, that the world is in it's death throes. Just like when Christ came, few realized the promised Messiah had arrived.


66 posted on 03/07/2006 4:32:20 AM PST by colorcountry (Some folks wear their halos much too tight)
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"Amillennialism: (Also known as Nonmillennialism). The Kingdom of God is present in the world today through the presence of the heavenly reign of Christ, the Bible, the Holy Spirit and Christianity."---This acurately reflects my beliefs and---"Both good and evil will continue in the world until the current Church Age ends suddenly as Christ returns to the sky above the earth. The Rapture follows. The Redeemed are transported to heaven where they will adopt spiritual bodies. The majority of humanity will be sent to Hell at this time for eternal punishment. The world will be abandoned. History is no more."---comes close enough. I don't feel the need to point out any of my differences with this, except with the word 'majority'. I don't know how many people will be saved and how many will be lost. I guess some biblical passages do point to "few" being saved. And certainly my experience on this earth leads me to be more and more pessimistic about it year by year. It often looks like there is more evil on this earth than I can comprehend.


68 posted on 03/07/2006 5:06:52 AM PST by fromscratchmom
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Put me down for "Dispensational Premillennialism"

I think when the bill comes due there will be heavy retribution all around. But for God's mercy not one would survive.

I think our understanding of history will be wiped clean and a new age, in the beginning a Golden Age will follow. And then entropy again sets in.

BTW, thanks for asking.

69 posted on 03/07/2006 5:16:14 AM PST by Pietro
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The party is over when we run out of beer.


70 posted on 03/07/2006 5:20:56 AM PST by Toby06 (Check out my revised profile!)
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Teleology is the study of final causes, the end results.

I like the definition in the OED:

teleology

/telliollji, teel-/

• noun (pl. teleologies)
1 Philosophy the doctrine that the existence of phenomena may be explained with reference to the purpose they serve.
2 Theology the doctrine that there is evidence of design and purpose in the natural world.

— DERIVATIVES teleologic adjective teleological adjective.

— ORIGIN from Greek telos ‘end’ + logos ‘account, reason’.

b'shem Y'shua
73 posted on 03/07/2006 6:00:01 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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No one said "not with a bang, but with a whimper" yet?

I am Catholic, so mark me down for that brand of amillennialism. (Though that be a misnomer. There is a Millennium and we are in it now.)

Now, an interesting quote from one of my daughter's favorite movies, "The Last Unicorn." Take it away, Schmendrick, the magician:

There are no happy endings, because nothing ends.

SD

74 posted on 03/07/2006 6:14:59 AM PST by SoothingDave
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bookmark for later reading.


75 posted on 03/07/2006 6:16:19 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
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Log me in for Pre-Wrath Rapture. I figure we are in the last stages of the second seal and are about to pop on the third. (Rev 6)


76 posted on 03/07/2006 6:16:44 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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